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  • Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     OP - March 27, 2011, 10:24 PM
    What do you make of this?  I do wonder how converts to Islam can sleep at night knowing that they've adopted a belief system which says that their non-Muslim family are going to burn in hell..... just because they're non-Muslims.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=287388vONrs
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  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #1 - March 27, 2011, 10:27 PM
    its allahs will,best is to make dawah to your parents and try to make convert them
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #2 - March 27, 2011, 10:30 PM

    I've got to say, I use the word 'wicked' very rarely, but this is a truly wicked, disturbed, nasty, horrible, psychologically depraved and disgusting thing that Islam teaches.

    His poor father and mother.

    Islam teaches the convert to burn all his and her bridges and fills them with self loathing and hatred for their familial, cultural, and societal roots. This is just sadism and cruelty pure and simple.

    This is the reality of the psychological perversion that dawah promotes.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #3 - March 27, 2011, 10:36 PM
    Quote from: Shahid Raza on March 27, 2011, 10:24 PM
    What do you make of this?  I do wonder how converts to Islam can sleep at night knowing that they've adopted a belief system which says that their non-Muslim family are going to burn in hell..... just because they're non-Muslims.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=287388vONrs

    Fucking hell. That's the pathology of mainstream Islam right there. Part of me genuinely feels sorry for his stupid ass for believing such pathological nonsense - the guy is genuinely upset.

    But the other part feels nothing but revulsion at such self-imposed pointless torment. Fucking idiot.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #4 - March 27, 2011, 10:37 PM

    Pathology is the right word. This is the mainstream of what Islam teaches about converts.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #5 - March 27, 2011, 10:39 PM
    May allah give you peace Hamza Tzortzis - you are truly in a trial. This is probably how the last prophet (pbuh) felt when he visited his mothers grave but couldnt pray for her.

    May allah give you peace  Afro
    Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

    "That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means, but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be the truth."
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #6 - March 27, 2011, 10:40 PM
    This is seriously...wicked, pathetic, disturbing..!!!!
    Fucking wicked.
    I shouldn't be here. Really. Shaytan SWT deluded ALL of us. Amen.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #7 - March 27, 2011, 10:42 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:39 PM
    May allah give you peace Hamza Tzortzis - you are truly in a trial. This is probably how the last prophet (pbuh) felt when he visited his mothers grave but couldnt pray for her.

    May allah give you peace  Afro

    Stupid troll,- at least get your facts straight: the mother of Mr. PBUH died when he was a little child, and hence before Islam came. So she will go to Jannat by default.  whistling2
    I shouldn't be here. Really. Shaytan SWT deluded ALL of us. Amen.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #8 - March 27, 2011, 10:42 PM
    I don't understand why he doesn't realize that such position is completely immoral and shows Allah as an ultimate sadistic prick? How can he sleep at night knowing that he submitted to complete evil?
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #9 - March 27, 2011, 10:43 PM
    And this is why I find it difficult to respect coverts. They embrace Islam either knowing, or knowing shortly thereafter that their parents, who loved them, brought them up, will be roasting in a giant barbeque for all eternity.

    How the hell (pun not intended) someone can reconcile that with any kind of almighty being is the pinnacle of fucked-uppery for me.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #10 - March 27, 2011, 10:43 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:39 PM
    May allah give you peace Hamza Tzortzis - you are truly in a trial. This is probably how the last prophet (pbuh) felt when he visited his mothers grave but couldnt pray for her.

    May allah give you peace  Afro

    Seriously, fuck off with that nasty shit.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #11 - March 27, 2011, 10:44 PM
    Quote from: MnfqKfrMrtd on March 27, 2011, 10:42 PM
    Stupid troll,- at least get your facts straight: the mother of Mr. PBUH died when he was a little child, and hence before Islam came. So she will go to Jannat by default.  whistling2


    Lol. She didnt believe in god. Its funny how you accuse me of correct information  Cheesy . A simple google search will help you bro.
    Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

    "That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means, but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be the truth."
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #12 - March 27, 2011, 10:47 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:39 PM
    May allah give you peace Hamza Tzortzis - you are truly in a trial. This is probably how the last prophet (pbuh) felt when he visited his mothers grave but couldnt pray for her.

    May allah give you peace  Afro


    What about his parents? Were they just there as a trial for him?

    Difference between prophet's mum and Tzortis's parents: prophet's mum gets a get-out-of-hell-free card because Islam hadn't arrived yet. Tzortis's parents get "well done", not in the congratulatory way but the way you have your steak.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #13 - March 27, 2011, 10:47 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:39 PM
    May allah give you peace Hamza Tzortzis - you are truly in a trial. This is probably how the last prophet (pbuh) felt when he visited his mothers grave but couldnt pray for her.

    May allah give you peace  


    Imran, any belief system that actively teaches with sadistic clarity to brainwash its new adherents into this state of pathology and sundering the bond between a child and its parents is truly depraved. Instead of reflecting on this, you wallow in it like a pig in shit.

    This is the methodology of a very sinister cult. Islam does not deserve any respect for this disgusting process  Afro

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #14 - March 27, 2011, 10:47 PM
    Quote from: Kenan on March 27, 2011, 10:43 PM
    Seriously, fuck off with that nasty shit.


    Lol. Truth hurts - you dont need to be rude for being unable to comprehend the concept
    Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

    "That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means, but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be the truth."
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #15 - March 27, 2011, 10:49 PM
    Quote from: billy on March 27, 2011, 10:47 PM
    Imran, any belief system that actively teaches with sadistic clarity to brainwash its new adherents into this state of pathology and sundering the bond between a child and its parents is truly depraved. Instead of reflecting on this, you wallow in it like a pig in shit.

    This is the methodology of a very sinister cult. Islam does not deserve any respect for this disgusting process  Afro



     Cheesy Nevermind
    Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

    "That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means, but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be the truth."
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #16 - March 27, 2011, 10:50 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:47 PM
    Lol. Truth hurts - you dont need to be rude for being unable to comprehend the concept

    Let's get our facts straight: Are you just trolling or do you seriously believe this shit?
    I shouldn't be here. Really. Shaytan SWT deluded ALL of us. Amen.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #17 - March 27, 2011, 10:52 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:49 PM
    Nevermind


    The truth hurts  Afro

    Come back when you've discovered your humanity in the dark pit of hatred that Islam and your promitive caveman tribalism has drowned you in.

    Death Angel  Grin
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #18 - March 27, 2011, 10:53 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:47 PM
    Lol. Truth hurts - you dont need to be rude for being unable to comprehend the concept


    Its not a difficult concept.  He could choose not to see his family as condemned to burn forever because they don't accept that a " merciful" God could send people to burn forever, but he has chosen to believe these things.  His parents apparently love him and he apparently loves them, but some how he feels massive pain knowing that they are going to be racked forever.  Simply because they don't acknowledge or rather are incapable of acknowledging a self absorbed narcissistic ( imaginary) being.  The whole thing could be avoided and they could be a happy family. 
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #19 - March 27, 2011, 10:53 PM
    Quote from: Eliphaz on March 27, 2011, 10:47 PM
    What about his parents? Were they just there as a trial for him?

    Difference between prophet's mum and Tzortis's parents: prophet's mum gets a get-out-of-hell-free card because Islam hadn't arrived yet. Tzortis's parents get "well done", not in the congratulatory way but the way you have your steak.


    oh please do some research - this is getting ridiculously funny now (in bold)
    Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

    "That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means, but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be the truth."
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #20 - March 27, 2011, 10:54 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:47 PM
    Lol. Truth hurts - you dont need to be rude for being unable to comprehend the concept

    Nope. I understand the concept just fine. That's the problem actually. I am just surprised what a nasty piece of work you are. Islam really is a mental disorder.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #21 - March 27, 2011, 10:55 PM
    As muslims, we must love our creator Allah more than anyone or anything.
    Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

    "That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means, but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be the truth."
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #22 - March 27, 2011, 10:57 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:55 PM
    As muslims, we must love our creator Allah more than anyone or anything.

    Look I already realised that you are a psycho. There is no need to reaffirm that fact.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #23 - March 27, 2011, 10:57 PM
    Quote
    As muslims, we must love our creator Allah more than anyone or anything.


    Why does a loving God demand that you love him?  its a contradiction in terms to demand love and " be loving".  The only people I know that demand love are pychopathic jealous boyfriends or girlfriends or self deluded tyrants ( see Gadaffi).  If you truly love someone you don't demand love above all else.  
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #24 - March 27, 2011, 10:59 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:55 PM
    As muslims, we must love our creator Allah more than anyone or anything.


    "Love me, worship me,  or else you'd end up burning in hell for everrr!!"
    Islam is a parody of 1984.
    I shouldn't be here. Really. Shaytan SWT deluded ALL of us. Amen.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #25 - March 27, 2011, 10:59 PM
    Quote from: bluecake on March 27, 2011, 10:53 PM
    oh please do some research - this is getting ridiculously funny now (in bold)


    Glad you're enjoying it. I would expect nothing less. Please prove me wrong and I will concede your God is even more twisted than I previously thought.
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #26 - March 27, 2011, 11:00 PM
    Lol its a funny question to ask because you don't demand love - its expected in this case - anyone who doesnt is disgusting.
    Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

    "That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means, but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be the truth."
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #27 - March 27, 2011, 11:02 PM
    Quote
    Lol its a funny question to ask because you don't demand love - its expected in this case - anyone who doesnt is disgusting.


    Yes, a relationship is built on mutual love and trust, when one party says that you must love me or else I will kill you, and not just kill you but bring you back to life to kill you over and over again forever I think you can see we have moved beyond a person who understands what a loving relationship is.  
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #28 - March 27, 2011, 11:03 PM
    I feel really sorry for Hamza - I saw his talk last year and he's a really nice person at heart.
    May allah make it easy for you brother.
    Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

    "That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means, but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be the truth."
  • Re: Hamza Tzortzis on his non-Muslim parents
     Reply #29 - March 27, 2011, 11:04 PM
    Quote
    I feel really sorry for Hamza - I saw his talk last year and he's a really nice person at heart.
    May allah make it easy for you brother.


    Why would Allah make it easy on him, when Allah will be the one torturing his family forever?

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
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