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Theme Changer

 Poll

  • Question: Death Penalty
  • In support of it - 4 (8.7%)
  • Against it - 33 (71.7%)
  • Undecided - 9 (19.6%)
  • Total Voters: 46

 Topic: Death Penalty

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  • Re: Death Penalty
     Reply #120 - June 28, 2012, 04:01 PM

    Yeah, I read that, but you aren't giving any of your ideas on that matter, a solutions, ideas, despite all these opinion

    I do, but still, I don't live in one

    I'm in no conditions to write a letter lynna, but do convey his thoughts here


    As regards your first point I believe I have addressed that. I do believe I have discussed the attending men who have slit their throats. There have been other amazing acts of self harm as well.
    There are things done in the system to help deal with the mental health issues of life in prison but most people are just like you. They have no idea just like you have no idea but you want to voice your opinion against people who live it.

    Listen to yourself.

    You say you don't live in prison. Okay me neither.
    Have you ever visited anyone in prison?
    Toured a prison?
    Ever spoken to anyone who was in prison and got out?
    Known anyone who's mom or dad was in prison?
    Have you ever cried for any one in prison?
    Has the pit of your stomach ever become sick for someone in prison?
    Have you ever heard the life stroy of some one in prison told as they tell it them self?

    It would be nice if I could post pictures of the men I know and tell their story as they have told me.

    Would it help you?

    I doubt it because I'm no sure if this conversation is real life to you. For me I am talking about real people. Peoplel that I know.

    You say you think about people in prison.
    What do you think?
    What do you think it would be like to be lock in an eight x eight cell 23 hours a day not for days but for years. Oh and that hour your out of cell don't think that is so you can run a muck. You get to walk in chains to a shower cell or to a recreation cage.
    I know you like cookies yes . How often do you think you can just have a cookie because you want one? All the time I drink Gatorade or Pedialyte out of a Gatorade bottle. I have had men chance a write up and offer to buy it from me for their months allowance. Their choice of drinks is water, punch, milk, coffee, tea. That is all. Not just for the week.

    The offender that I would have given you his address well... let's. Just call him William...here online. He consoles himself by thinking he will get his parole in 2018 but perhaps it will really be 2045 when his sentence ends. That however is very hard to think about. William first came to my attention one day when I was standing down in the POD not far off from his cell. He didn't get meds but perhaps he'd been watching me. This day his beanhole was open and his tatted arm was leaning on the door that formed a small self and his face leaned against his arm. "Are you my Mom?" He asked. I looked up from my work and gazed carefully at him no I concluded I didn't know him. "No, I'm sorry I dont know you ." I replied.. "But you had to think about if you were my Mom or not." He pushed for conversation. "My Son lives in a place like this, " I sighed "but it's not here that's the rule . I however have many prison sons and extra sons in world as well. Since I'm new here with all the new faces I was just trying to place if I knew you from another facility." "You must have a lot of love to have extra sons." He continued. I just smiled and laughed. That was the beginning of how I acquired William. As it turned out he had the habit of asking women if they are his mom. He had been adopted and really wants to find his birth mom. He feels alone in the world he has children in their late teen years.  He feels he has lost them due to his lifestyle perhaps so. I would always encourage him not to loss hope that even if their relationship was not all it should have been it could still be something. Williiam is an awesome artist it is against the rules for staff to receive gifts from the offenders so I can never have some of his art,  only the memory. His choices that got him in prison were selfish. He'll tell you himself what will get him through prison is making it about helping other people. Selfishness is a trap he says. I think he is right.

    I don't know to read back some of the short little things I write doesn't seem to be enough. The big picture is huge with so many details all of them human.

    The problem needs to be fixed long before they get to prison.

    All the babies that are born need parents and families and communities that love and support them. Everyone needs to know they are individually important and useful and needed.

    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: Death Penalty
     Reply #121 - June 28, 2012, 08:01 PM

    lynna, I have never been to one, a prison,

    but I do have experience of my freedom being strip, I'm a suicide patients, here in my country it's deemed a crime, but as far as my memories goes I never harm anyone except myself physically,

    emotionally, my parent, yeah they are hurt, I'm not denying that, I'm not trying to compare experience here,

    I just want to say, I somewhat get the gist of when your freedom being strip from you, somewhat .. I do think of suicide when I'm there, its just won't work, being tied to a bed, given medication through injection, that's what stopping me, anyway, there's also severe cases there, rape, murder ect ..

    not on the same ward though ..
    I know my experiences is not the same as one in prison but I think I do know.. the agitation, anxiety, false hope, restless, the long hour, time pass too fecking slow, counting the day after day after day, thinking why you're there in the first place, what you're gonna do after you get out, trying to strike conversation with workers there, killing time, thinking you're better be dead or go crazy, warranting attention and sedation

    and I do worried for you, now I know why workers there somewhat indifference towards its tenance, they're just defending themselves with a barriers of ignorance, resentful of being emotionally involved

    but you lynna, you're different, you try to take the burden unto yourself, your maternal instinct is showing, it's not a bad thing, hell! I love you for that, showing concern for people,that majority doesn't concern with, just don't bottle it up, letting it eat you, you have family, children and it's a good thing if you write it here, do create a blog.

    but I don't have the answer to those question, nor do religion, 'how to empty thy prison' precisely,

    human in what ages, civilization do have prison, if there are no one, they will create one, prison and prisoner, that's human, lame

    nor do religion give society relieve from criminal, there will be criminal,

    I live in a religious country, there's still murder, rape, rape and murder, woman who protect their awrah being raped, children being rape murdered, stuff into bags, this all makes me mad, thinking all of this, it's never end, human suffering, except you end yourself, that's what partially in my mind, others than me want to find the truth, it's when I'm sick, depressed.

    now, someone says religion here is not the true religion, dreaming of long past khilafah rule or something, it's just a dream, a past will never be a present nor a future, a different set of people, time, conditions, reality.

    I have no solutions on this except by believing on human good natures, critical thinking, but I do know god won't intervenes nor society healed by themselves.

    alas, I myself is in no condition too,   I'm just an undernourished guy, deeply trouble by people who view himself as a crazies, out of norm, a cripple in society, a burden, I can't confirm with society, never will, because I believe I'm an ex-muslim.

    as yeez first advice to me, "I must take care of myself first before taking care of others" or whatever something like that, it's easy to say, but hard to do, for me at least ..
  • Re: Death Penalty
     Reply #122 - June 28, 2012, 08:02 PM

    oh, I forgot sumthin, it's not my norm irl, so here it is

     far away hug
  • Re: Death Penalty
     Reply #123 - June 28, 2012, 08:32 PM

    oh, I forgot sumthin, it's not my norm irl, so here it is

     far away hug


    Thank you for letting me see a tiny drop of the inside of Paranoid.  Big hug

    I have have a huge family, friends and congregations that helps me with the love and pain of "my world on the other side of the fence". Also the rules of the prison protect me they are very strict about contact so when I am at home i tell stories but that is it or some times tell others how to write to certian men. however the worlds must be mix.

    I think you are wrong about God. Perhaps some day you will want to hear.

    You likely know more then you think do about prison. You're never alone there is always some one who cares, perhaps not the people who at first you think should. You can always make a difference.

    How does a person make a blog?


    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: Death Penalty
     Reply #124 - June 29, 2012, 04:13 AM

    Quote
    How does a person make a blog?


    Huh? donno I'm figuring that myself, but da_dudes wrote em here, hers blog, broken birdie flying something, this is off topic, I'll resign here..
  • Re: Death Penalty
     Reply #125 - June 29, 2012, 04:15 AM


    How does a person make a blog?



    Huh? donno I'm figuring that myself, but da_dudes wrote em here, hers blog, broken birdie flying something, this is off topic, I'll resign here..


    You mean a blog on CEMB? You can just go to the Blogs section at http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?board=10.0 and create a new topic with the title of your blog and make posts over there. If you don't want it on CEMB, you can create it on Blogspot.com or Wordpress.com for free.
  • Death Penalty
     Reply #126 - October 07, 2014, 09:37 AM

    I have to write an essay about it, but Im both pro and against the death penalty... wacko
  • Death Penalty
     Reply #127 - October 07, 2014, 01:12 PM

    Just had a glance at some of the posts, I will be coming back to read in more detail later. Glad you bumped it. Afro

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Death Penalty
     Reply #128 - October 07, 2014, 06:56 PM

    What is your opinion about it?
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