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  • Rape: It is your fault!
     OP - June 18, 2014, 09:03 PM
    Came across this video today. Sooo true.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hC0Ng_ajpY
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #1 - June 18, 2014, 09:29 PM
    Quote from: INcePtion on June 18, 2014, 09:03 PM
    Came across this video today. Sooo true.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hC0Ng_ajpY

    well that is a good one for Indians but she is not right saying..

    "..No women No rape..."  better one is  .. "No dicks No rape".. Cut it  and feed it to wild dogs and make them to watching the dogs eating it.. ..

     
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #2 - June 18, 2014, 09:33 PM
    Reminds me of this. Goes hand in hand.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1416/saudi-physician-letter
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #3 - June 18, 2014, 11:28 PM
    That video is innovative, sure, but it just spat on every boy and man who was ever raped. I am not cool with that. Why would you focus on just the female gender if you are bothering to campaign against rape?
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #4 - June 18, 2014, 11:47 PM
    Because it's made in India, where the recent high profile cases have had female victims, and where the status of women is generally far worse than the status of men.

    I don't think it "spits on" male victims either. The same point could easily be applied to them.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #5 - June 19, 2014, 12:43 AM
    Yeah, if you are watching that, and you are a boy who has been raped, maybe you won't feel worse. Maybe.
    Maybe they should try to eradicate rape itself, and not act as if rape is the sole domain of female adult victims. Their latest high profile rape case involved teenagers, not women.
    Maybe if the concept can easily be applied to men and children, someone should. I don't see it being displayed here, just women.
    I think they can do better. I think they should. I sincerely hope there is more to come than this one ad. 
    I am not going to clap for halfway. This is like that anti-domestic violence campaign in Saudi Arabistan, too little, too late, too narrow.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #6 - June 19, 2014, 12:50 AM
    Quote from: three on June 19, 2014, 12:43 AM
    Yeah, if you are watching that, and you are a boy who has been raped, maybe you won't feel worse. Maybe.
    Maybe they should try to eradicate rape itself, and not act as if rape is the sole domain of female adult victims. Their latest high profile rape case involved teenagers, not women.
    Maybe if the concept can easily be applied to men and children, someone should. I don't see it being displayed here, just women.
    I think they can do better. I think they should. I sincerely hope there is more to come than this one ad. 
    I am not going to clap for halfway. This is like that anti-domestic violence campaign in Saudi Arabistan, too little, too late, too narrow.

    Three, the video is not a campaign against rape "how to stop rape etc.." but it focuses more on the outcome of it and what happens when women report it. Men or children (the children are too young to know what someone has done to them) are less likely to report this type of abuse, plus men get from little to no media coverage.
    A few years ago I was totally unaware of male rape, I thought it was just a thing men did to women.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #7 - June 19, 2014, 12:56 AM
    Quote from: three on June 18, 2014, 11:28 PM
    That video is innovative, sure, but it just spat on every boy and man who was ever raped. I am not cool with that. Why would you focus on just the female gender if you are bothering to campaign against rape?

    This is nonsense. The video is a satirical treatment of rape apologetics that are always focussed on women. Nobody blames men for being raped. Nobody says it was because of what they were wearing. Nobody says they must have been asking for it. Nobody says they have buyers remorse. This type of obscene and demoralising dogma is almost exclusively levelled at women.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #8 - June 19, 2014, 12:58 AM
    ^agree with Ishina
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #9 - June 19, 2014, 01:10 AM
    I think :58 is completely offensive to male and underage victims. They could have left that out. There is no need to say ¨no women, no rape¨.  I am saying, if you are going to sink the cash into a campaign on rape awareness or whatever the proper technical term of this might be, you can at least not marginalize the experiences of the rest of the victims, by telling them that if they are not female and adult, they were not raped. It is not funny, even while joking.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #10 - June 19, 2014, 01:14 AM
    Quote from: INcePtion on June 19, 2014, 12:50 AM
    Three, the video is not a campaign against rape "how to stop rape etc.." but it focuses more on the outcome of it and what happens when women report it. Men or children (the children are too young to know what someone has done to them) are less likely to report this type of abuse, plus men get from little to no media coverage.
    A few years ago I was totally unaware of male rape, I thought it was just a thing men did to women.


    Exactly, so if you have a high profile campaign that you planned on raising rape awareness with, then I hope you would do more than just claim it only happens to women. Because what happens to children and men is rape, too, and you can be sure that if it is happening to women, then it is happening to others in that culture.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #11 - June 19, 2014, 01:19 AM
    Be offended then.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #12 - June 19, 2014, 01:25 AM
    I know i will get so much hate for this, but why are we fighting against human nature? HUMAN NATURE. not MAN NATURE. i am not saying that any woman who wears short clothes is just ASKING TO GET RAPED. but i am saying, how can a woman who wears short clothes NOT EXPECT TO GET RAPED?

    at the same time, i am not saying that any and every woman who wears short clothes deserves to get raped. i am only saying, that a woman living in a particular society which includes males, cannot expect to NOT get raped when men ACT on their baser instincts?

    it is like blaming a lion for eating the deer that came to close. no i am not saying that every rapist is a lion. but i am saying, there needs to be some fucking common sense. we are not at a point where men and women can control their baser desire.

    All i am saying is, when one member of a species decide to walk out in revelaing clothes, that you cannot blame another member of the same species to act on their baser instincts.
    "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." ― Frank Zappa
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #13 - June 19, 2014, 01:26 AM
    I don't think you can hold a higher organism to the same standards as you would a lower organism. Men should be caged, then, if they desire rape.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #14 - June 19, 2014, 01:27 AM
    Quote from: AllPraisetoHarith on June 19, 2014, 01:25 AM
    I know i will get so much hate for this, but why are we fighting against human nature? HUMAN NATURE. not MAN NATURE. i am not saying that any woman who wears short clothes is just ASKING TO GET RAPED. but i am saying, how can a woman who wears short clothes NOT EXPECT TO GET RAPED?

    at the same time, i am not saying that any and every woman who wears short clothes deserves to get raped. i am only saying, that a woman living in a particular society which includes males, cannot expect to NOT get raped when men ACT on their baser instincts?

    it is like blaming a lion for eating the deer that came to close. no i am not saying that every rapist is a lion. but i am saying, there needs to be some fucking common sense. we are not at a point where men and women can control their baser desire.

    All i am saying is, when one member of a species decide to walk out in revelaing clothes, that you cannot blame another member of the same species to act on their baser instincts.

    Take a moment to reread what you've posted, then get back to us once it sinks in.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #15 - June 19, 2014, 01:28 AM
    So men are allowed to rape, because it is part of their being  human.
    Dafuck?
    -_-
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #16 - June 19, 2014, 01:30 AM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 19, 2014, 01:27 AM
    Take a moment to reread what you've posted, then get back to us once it sinks in.


    I have known men who considered unaccompanied females to be too revealing. No matter what they were wearing, if their Mahram was not with them, then they were asking for it, at any age. By this logic, then, women should wear their Mahram.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #17 - June 19, 2014, 01:32 AM
    jesus fucking christ no that is not what i am saying.

    I am saying, it is pretty fucking stupid of women to just roam about in their short clothes in every corner of the world and NOT expect to have some guy wanting to rape her. i am not excusing the rapist. i am not blaming the rapee. i am just saying, are we so fucking blind to human nature that it baffles us when a male decides to impose his will on a woman who is already roaming around in short clothes.

    does this mean that if a woman was roaming around in a full abayya and niqab to not get raped? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
    "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." ― Frank Zappa
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #18 - June 19, 2014, 01:32 AM
    Quote from: AllPraisetoHarith on June 19, 2014, 01:25 AM
    I know i will get so much hate for this, but why are we fighting against human nature? HUMAN NATURE. not MAN NATURE. i am not saying that any woman who wears short clothes is just ASKING TO GET RAPED. but i am saying, how can a woman who wears short clothes NOT EXPECT TO GET RAPED?

    at the same time, i am not saying that any and every woman who wears short clothes deserves to get raped. i am only saying, that a woman living in a particular society which includes males, cannot expect to NOT get raped when men ACT on their baser instincts?

    it is like blaming a lion for eating the deer that came to close. no i am not saying that every rapist is a lion. but i am saying, there needs to be some fucking common sense. we are not at a point where men and women can control their baser desire.

    All i am saying is, when one member of a species decide to walk out in revelaing clothes, that you cannot blame another member of the same species to act on their baser instincts.

    There is so much fucking unapologetic ignorance and dumbfuckery in this post that it's difficult for me to start debunking it calmly and rationally as the fallacious and easily debunked bullshit it is.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #19 - June 19, 2014, 01:35 AM
    Quote from: AllPraisetoHarith on June 19, 2014, 01:32 AM
    jesus fucking christ no that is not what i am saying.

    I am saying, it is pretty fucking stupid of women to just roam about in their short clothes in every corner of the world and NOT expect to have some guy wanting to rape her. i am not excusing the rapist. i am not blaming the rapee. i am just saying, are we so fucking blind to human nature that it baffles us when a male decides to impose his will on a woman who is already roaming around in short clothes.

    does this mean that if a woman was roaming around in a full abayya and niqab to not get raped? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

    SMITE 1

    Your first of 3 official warnings, issued for rape victim blaming. Choose your next actions carefully.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #20 - June 19, 2014, 01:36 AM
    Quote from: AllPraisetoHarith on June 19, 2014, 01:32 AM
    jesus fucking christ no that is not what i am saying.

    I am saying, it is pretty fucking stupid of women to just roam about in their short clothes in every corner of the world and NOT expect to have some guy wanting to rape her. i am not excusing the rapist. i am not blaming the rapee. i am just saying, are we so fucking blind to human nature that it baffles us when a male decides to impose his will on a woman who is already roaming around in short clothes.

    does this mean that if a woman was roaming around in a full abayya and niqab to not get raped? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

    This is a mentality that I find often from people with an islamic background. Gender and sexuality come before empathy and individuality. Basically, you're male/female first, human second, rather than human first male/female second.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #21 - June 19, 2014, 01:38 AM
    Quote from: AllPraisetoHarith on June 19, 2014, 01:32 AM
    jesus fucking christ no that is not what i am saying.

    I am saying, it is pretty fucking stupid of women to just roam about in their short clothes in every corner of the world and NOT expect to have some guy wanting to rape her. i am not excusing the rapist. i am not blaming the rapee. i am just saying, are we so fucking blind to human nature that it baffles us when a male decides to impose his will on a woman who is already roaming around in short clothes.

    does this mean that if a woman was roaming around in a full abayya and niqab to not get raped? ABSOLUTELY NOT.


    You dont even know what you are saying.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #22 - June 19, 2014, 01:40 AM
    I'm curious Harith. If it really is an instinct we all share, why do your posts disgust and repel me instead of having me nod along in agreement?
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #23 - June 19, 2014, 01:55 AM
    Yes, I want to know this, too. Because I have been working super hard for the last two years not to regard men as homicidal maniacs who have those thoughts. CEMB has been really helpful with that, so I would like to hear it on this forum, where I regard the overwhelming majority of posters (male and female) as people rather than monsters.
    I want to know how to tell the difference between the two types, those with and without rape instinct. So I can avoid the latter, without the telling written confession.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #24 - June 19, 2014, 02:11 AM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 19, 2014, 01:36 AM
    Basically, you're male/female first, human second, rather than human first male/female second.

    That's how you tell.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #25 - June 19, 2014, 02:33 AM
    That's assuming such people are honest and upfront about it. If it were that simple, the problem would have been solved. Predators don't usually work that way, in my experience.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #26 - June 19, 2014, 02:33 AM
    question to men: when someone tells you it's part of your nature to rape, how does that make you feel?

    According to Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan,
    Quote
    Recent statistics show that about 25% of women in the country are subjected to sexual violence.



    Read more: http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2008/12/25/about-25-women-in-the-country-face-sexual-violence.html#ixzz3533jqK3i

    They should've been wearing longer burkas to avoid the rape.
    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #27 - June 19, 2014, 02:36 AM
    Good point, great example.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #28 - June 19, 2014, 02:37 AM
    Quote
    A 3-year-old girl in Saudi Arabia was reportedly raped by a group of men. After taking turns violating the toddler, the men dumped her near a hospital where she was classified in serious condition


    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/30/saudi-men-accused-of-gang-raping-a-3-year-old-yes-a-3-year-old/

    Can't blame em when toddlers walk around in really skimpy diapers.
    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • Rape: It is your fault!
     Reply #29 - June 19, 2014, 02:39 AM
    Quote from: Jila on June 19, 2014, 02:33 AM
    question to men: when someone tells you it's part of your nature to rape, how does that make you feel?

    Depends on my mood and the situation. It either angers and insults me, or just makes me feel sadness/pity. I only get it from the people with the mind-set I mentioned above, and it's nearly always people from an islamic background.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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