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 Topic: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments

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  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #60 - October 01, 2009, 06:58 AM
    Yes, you just have to bite your tongue and do what is needed.  And when you get the chance, don't hesitate to do what you have to do, b/c they don't change. 
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  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #61 - October 01, 2009, 07:12 AM
    a few cringeworthy moments:
    -the fact that I admired people like Bilal Philips and Yusuf Estes  Roll Eyes
    -excusing myself from group meetings at school because it was time to go pray (I was terrified of missing a single prayer)
    -hearing an islamic lecture in which the sheikh mentioned that "evolution has been proven wrong... they're not even teaching it any more at the ivy league schools, like harvard" and ACTUALLY taking this as an argument when debating with others  banghead
    -Berbs, knowing the type of situation you were in makes me cringe so much more at the fact that I actually defended 4:34 constantly. Wish I could go back in time and slap myself.

    other things:
    - pepsi = coke, and all other pops are inferior  Tongue
    - vodka IS a great way to get drunk, the only type of drink that's ever gotten me there and that makes it good in my books

    "when you've got thousands of hadith/sunnah and a book like the Qur'an where abrogation is propagated by some; anyone with a grudge and some time on their hands can find something to confirm what ever they wish"- Kaiwai
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #62 - October 01, 2009, 08:01 AM
    Quote from: AlmostAisha on October 01, 2009, 07:12 AM
    a few cringeworthy moments:
    -the fact that I admired people like Bilal Philips and Yusuf Estes  Roll Eyes


    Never liked any of these two due to their salafi leanings and they seemed like dwarfs in front of Hamza Yusuf and Abdal Hakim Murad.

    Quote
    -excusing myself from group meetings at school because it was time to go pray (I was terrified of missing a single prayer)


    Oh FHM! This was really bad and I was always happy for the long daylight hours in the UK, where praying at work wasn't an issue. Then there were times when I wouldn't go out shopping because of having to find places to pray.

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    -hearing an islamic lecture in which the sheikh mentioned that "evolution has been proven wrong... they're not even teaching it any more at the ivy league schools, like harvard" and ACTUALLY taking this as an argument when debating with others  banghead


    This was just cognitive dissonance. I remember reading Harun Yahya and thinking what a great scholar he was for disproving evolution, but at the back of my mind I had the feeling that evolution just seemed far more coherent and was against any creation myth in the abrahamic faiths.
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #63 - October 01, 2009, 10:39 AM
    Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on October 01, 2009, 08:01 AM
    This was just cognitive dissonance. I remember reading Harun Yahya and thinking what a great scholar he was for disproving evolution, but at the back of my mind I had the feeling that evolution just seemed far more coherent and was against any creation myth in the abrahamic faiths.


    OMG! You have just made me cringe again! He is now one of my worst enemies but I remember thinking what a great scholar and really bigging him up. I remember telling some lad that I don't believe in evolution and he was gobsmacked. That's pretty cringeworthy too.

    Quote from: AlmostAisha on October 01, 2009, 07:12 AM
    - pepsi = coke, and all other pops are inferior  Tongue


    Are you from Birmingham?
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #64 - October 01, 2009, 03:29 PM
    Saying 'pop' for soda is also popular in the American mid-west and south. Few other places too, usually it's more in small town / rural vocabulary.
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #65 - October 01, 2009, 04:30 PM
    really? well I've lived in Canada in various big and small cities and only ever heard "pop" in common usage *shrug
    you brits and your cool ways of saying everything
    "when you've got thousands of hadith/sunnah and a book like the Qur'an where abrogation is propagated by some; anyone with a grudge and some time on their hands can find something to confirm what ever they wish"- Kaiwai
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #66 - October 01, 2009, 04:38 PM
    Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on October 01, 2009, 08:01 AM
    Never liked any of these two due to their salafi leanings and they seemed like dwarfs in front of Hamza Yusuf and Abdal Hakim Murad.

    I wasn't around long enough to hear about them as a Muslim. I think one of the main reasons I admired Bilal & Yusuf was that they were converts, and in some twisted way that inspired me, seeing how much converts could do for the deen  Roll Eyes

    Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on October 01, 2009, 08:01 AM
    Oh FHM! This was really bad and I was always happy for the long daylight hours in the UK, where praying at work wasn't an issue. Then there were times when I wouldn't go out shopping because of having to find places to pray.

    FHM? And yeah, I know what you mean. I declined an opportunity for a group trip to Greece because I didn't want to have to deal with being out and about at prayer times. Shoot me.

    Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on October 01, 2009, 08:01 AM
    This was just cognitive dissonance. I remember reading Harun Yahya and thinking what a great scholar he was for disproving evolution, but at the back of my mind I had the feeling that evolution just seemed far more coherent and was against any creation myth in the abrahamic faiths.

    That is probably true. This reminds me of those awesome "psychology of belief" videos. Still, doesn't make it any less cringeworthy  mysmilie_977
    "when you've got thousands of hadith/sunnah and a book like the Qur'an where abrogation is propagated by some; anyone with a grudge and some time on their hands can find something to confirm what ever they wish"- Kaiwai
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #67 - October 01, 2009, 04:42 PM
    Quote from: AlmostAisha on October 01, 2009, 04:30 PM
    really? well I've lived in Canada in various big and small cities and only ever heard "pop" in common usage *shrug
    you brits and your cool ways of saying everything

    That's just from my experience. Soda is the normative term here, saying 'pop' usually indicates that someone is from one of the places I mentioned. And I've also heard of some that call all soda 'coke'. wacko
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #68 - October 01, 2009, 04:48 PM
    No one says "pop" in England apart from stupid, thick brummies.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #69 - October 02, 2009, 09:23 AM
    Quote from: aliadiere on September 30, 2009, 07:26 PM
    I like cider, beer, wine, gin, irish whisky, scotch, brandy, dark rum, grand marnier, and pernod. I don't like vodka, it doesn't really taste of much and it just makes me feel sick.

    I know that there are people out there that do like the taste of vodka, but its just all these kids who go out drinking and drink vodka and coke, vodka and red bull, and alcopops. They are the vodka drinkers that I hate!

    What's with all the judgemental people on here? wacko Who gives a fuck how people like their alcohol? It's just a drink, to each their own...
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #70 - October 02, 2009, 09:31 AM
    That's my girl, you tell em Peru.  Alcohol snobbery is gross.  bunny
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #71 - October 02, 2009, 09:56 AM
    I'm an alcohol snob and a food snob. And proud of it!

    It just irritates me if people cannot appreciate the finer things in life! Like when someone told me that his favourite cider is Woodpecker! I felt like smackin him!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #72 - October 02, 2009, 10:06 AM
    Yeah, but in your own way you are trying to make people who like different things from you, feel lesser based on that snobbery.

    What is any different from that attitude than the religious snobs who think anyone not of their own religion is lower than them?

    I mean you have been quite vocal about your distaste for other peoples tastes, seems far too judgemental to me, it's not like anyone is trying to force you to drink it by trying to make you feel shitty for being too up there to lower your drinking standards, whereas you are actually doing the reverse to those of us who honestly don't give a shit as long as we are having a good time.

     wacko
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #73 - October 02, 2009, 10:21 AM
    Everyone has different taste buds and everyone has different preferences. Being an alcohol snob makes no sense.
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #74 - October 02, 2009, 10:22 AM
    Its not what people eat or drink that annoys me. I like eating and drinking crap stuff as well. I eat donner kebabs and drink strongbow. What irritates me is when people think that crap stuff is good and don't appreciate something good when they try it.

    But as you said, each to their own, and I shouldn't look down on people for what they like, but food is my passion, and I do get passionate about it, so it annoys me when people can't appreciate good food or drink.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #75 - October 02, 2009, 10:32 AM
    But the whole thing - "good food, good drink" - is subjective, not objective.  I might distinguish between fine food and fine drink - stuff where a lot of care or custom or craft has been put into its preparation.  But good or crap? That's entirely one's own opinion.  I would eat a Big Mac any day over gourmet escargots or something.
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  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #76 - October 02, 2009, 10:42 AM
    I agree with Manat, something being good quality does not make it good as that is entirely subjective. I've tasted fine beer before and absolutely hated it. The only wine I've ever liked is some ridiculous cheap stuff which didn't taste like wine. I cant stand most alcohol, it's quality bears no significance in my opinion of it. If it tastes good to me then it is good.
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #77 - October 02, 2009, 10:44 AM
    It is not entirely subjective. I would eat a big mac over gourmet escargots, but that is because i prefer the taste of a big mac over gourmet escargots. I still know that gourmet escargots are good quality food and a big mac is a big pile of crap.

    If somebody looks at a good piece of modern art and says "you call that art?! That is shit! Art is like a painting, or a sculpture. This isn't art", I'm sure that would annoy people who are into art. Likewise, with food, it annoys me when people don't appreciate that something is good food and will just slag it off, and won't even try it.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #78 - October 02, 2009, 10:47 AM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on October 02, 2009, 10:42 AM
    I agree with Manat, something being good quality does not make it good as that is entirely subjective. I've tasted fine beer before and absolutely hated it. The only wine I've ever liked is some ridiculous cheap stuff which didn't taste like wine. I cant stand most alcohol, it's quality bears no significance in my opinion of it. If it tastes good to me then it is good.


    That is fair enough, you can eat or drink what you like the taste of. But there are definite differences in qualityn and it is not entirely subjective. The burgers at Gourmet Burger Kitchen are definitely better than the burgers at Mcdonalds. Cristal is definitely better than Lanson Black Label. Absolut 100 is definitely better than Glen's Vodka.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #79 - October 02, 2009, 11:11 AM
    Furthermore, I think everyone is guilyt
    Quote from: BerberElla on October 02, 2009, 10:06 AM
    Yeah, but in your own way you are trying to make people who like different things from you, feel lesser based on that snobbery.

    What is any different from that attitude than the religious snobs who think anyone not of their own religion is lower than them?


    I think everyone looks down their noses at different people over different things. I think everyone on this forum is guilty of directly or indirectly calling Muslims stupid at times. That is looking down your noses at Muslims  as if we are better than them.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #80 - October 02, 2009, 11:17 AM
    Well, I don't think I do that. At least not for average muslims.  I do look down my nose at extreme muslims though, but that is based on their practises, the fact that they would love to kill us all and enslave the world.

    I think looking down my nose at murderous thugs is fair.

    I think there is a vast difference between that and looking down your nose at someone who likes to mix vodka with red bull, which I sometimes do and don't see why anyone could judge me so negatively and callously for something so silly?

    If someone wants to look down on me for being a nasty mean and cruel person then fair play, but because of my food, drink or music choices?  come on.
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    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #81 - October 02, 2009, 11:24 AM
    Quote from: aliadiere on October 02, 2009, 10:47 AM
    That is fair enough, you can eat or drink what you like the taste of. But there are definite differences in qualityn and it is not entirely subjective. The burgers at Gourmet Burger Kitchen are definitely better than the burgers at Mcdonalds. Cristal is definitely better than Lanson Black Label. Absolut 100 is definitely better than Glen's Vodka.

    Agreed but we are talking about subjective opinions. You said it annoys you when people don't appreciate something good when they try it, I don't see why they should have to. Just because it's good quality doesn't mean people have to like it or prefer it over something cheap.
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #82 - October 02, 2009, 11:25 AM
    Quote from: aliadiere on October 02, 2009, 11:11 AM
    Furthermore, I think everyone is guilyt
    I think everyone looks down their noses at different people over different things.

    That is true.
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #83 - October 02, 2009, 11:29 AM
    I didn't judge you or anybody negatively for having vodka and redbulls, and I apologise if it came accross that way. I was just talking about kids who don't appreciate anything good and just drikn vodka and coke, vodka and redbull and alcopops so they don't have to taste any alcohol.

    I don't look down my nose at them as such, and I certainly do not think that they are bad people because of their tastes. That would be ridiculous. But it is just one of those things that irritates me and I know that makes me a bit of a twat!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #84 - October 02, 2009, 11:34 AM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on October 02, 2009, 11:24 AM
    Agreed but we are talking about subjective opinions. You said it annoys you when people don't appreciate something good when they try it, I don't see why they should have to. Just because it's good quality doesn't mean people have to like it or prefer it over something cheap.


    They don't have to like it or -prefer it, but I believe that people should appreciate that it is good and they certainly shouldn't slag it off.

    Peruvian, I am asking you this question because you are Pakistani, because this conversation tends to come up in my living room! Have you ever been sat with your parents watching a cooking programme, and your parents say "these goras don't know how to cook! Look at that, it is rubbish! The meat is still raw!" That is the sort of thing that annoys me. People who do not appreciate something just because it is different and not what they are used to. The likes of Jamie Oliver and Worrall-Thompson, are proffessional chefs at the top of their game, and they certainly know more about cooking than some opinionated prick in his living room who barely knows how to fry an egg!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #85 - October 02, 2009, 11:34 AM
    Quote
    I was just talking about kids who don't appreciate anything good and just drikn vodka and coke, vodka and redbull and alcopops so they don't have to taste any alcohol.

    What's wrong with that? Alcohol tastes like shit to me and many others.
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #86 - October 02, 2009, 11:39 AM
    I concede, that is a good point. Lol
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #87 - October 02, 2009, 11:40 AM
    Quote from: aliadiere on October 02, 2009, 11:34 AM
    They don't have to like it or -prefer it, but I believe that people should appreciate that it is good and they certainly shouldn't slag it off.

    Peruvian, I am asking you this question because you are Pakistani, because this conversation tends to come up in my living room! Have you ever been sat with your parents watching a cooking programme, and your parents say "these goras don't know how to cook! Look at that, it is rubbish! The meat is still raw!" That is the sort of thing that annoys me. People who do not appreciate something just because it is different and not what they are used to. The likes of Jamie Oliver and Worrall-Thompson, are proffessional chefs at the top of their game, and they certainly know more about cooking than some opinionated prick in his living room who barely knows how to fry an egg!

    Unlike you I don't think people have to appreciate the different things in life. If it's not in their interest so be it. If you are interested in it then by all means go around checking the good quality stuff but don't judge others for not having the same interests as you.

    I don't think that example of goras cooking fits this scenario. That example is based on bigotry, thinking everything in muslim culture is better than what those kaffir white people make. You are more like those art snobs who feel people don't appreciate traditional art any more and don't take into account that others simply have different interests.
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #88 - October 02, 2009, 11:43 AM
    Quote from: aliadiere on October 02, 2009, 11:39 AM
    I concede, that is a good point. Lol

    And for the record I drink vodka mixers and alcopops Tongue And a load of other 'kids drinks'. I cant stand beer, wine and a heap of other alcoholic drinks. I just drink to get drunk Wink
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Cringeworthy Muslim Moments
     Reply #89 - October 02, 2009, 11:50 AM
    Werd lol me too.  Tongue
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