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Reply #300 - March 17, 2010, 09:30 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:22 PM
ok Billy feels this is innate not learned. How do you access it Hassan? A compass points clearly to a direction. How do you know it is guiding you to good?

I have no particular conscious method - it feels instinctive as I see a particular dilemma and I react - sometimes I may change that reaction based on new information, or reviewing the situation again, after advice from others etc...

Can I ask you the same question?

How do you deal with a particular moral dilemma? (lets say something that does not have a Qur'anic verse or prophetic hadith related to it.)
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Reply #301 - March 17, 2010, 09:31 PM

Quote from: Hassan on March 17, 2010, 09:30 PM
How do you deal with a particular moral dilemma? (lets say something that does not have a Qur'anic verse or prophetic hadith related to it.)

You gut a chicken open, if it's entrails are purple you go ahead and do the 9 year old. If it's pinkish, you go ahead and rape that hot jew chick you captured.

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Reply #302 - March 17, 2010, 09:32 PM

Quote from: billy on March 17, 2010, 09:29 PM
They are innate.
Now please answer my questions

surely you can do better than that
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Reply #303 - March 17, 2010, 09:32 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:22 PM
How do you know it is guiding you to good?

I don't - and the amount of times I fucked up means it probably doesn't always work that well - but then I'm no different from most religious people in that respect (and better than some.)

Are you claiming you always get moral decisions right?
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Reply #304 - March 17, 2010, 09:33 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:30 PM
how do you know what is good then billy (or anyone)

Answer my questions about your source code. Stop trying to be slippery, you won't be let off the hook here.

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Reply #305 - March 17, 2010, 09:34 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:32 PM
surely you can do better than that

I'm doing great

You're the one who is wriggling, obfuscating, and refusing to answer questions.

Answer the questions lightrays, don't be a coward.

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Re: About your videos
Reply #306 - March 17, 2010, 09:37 PM

God bless a fundie. They will give it you straight. Yes Mohammed fucked Aisha. Problem?
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Reply #307 - March 17, 2010, 09:40 PM

Quote from: Hassan on March 17, 2010, 09:30 PM
- it feels instinctive

I would tend to agree with you both innate or fitra it is a God given moral compass. Nice to see for once we all agree
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Re: About your videos
Reply #308 - March 17, 2010, 09:42 PM

where does it lead you? How do you assess your spiritual progress?
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Reply #309 - March 17, 2010, 09:42 PM

there are no such things as spirits - its all in your head

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Reply #310 - March 17, 2010, 09:44 PM

ok.. so where does it lead you. How do you assess your progress? (adequate for you islame?)
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Reply #311 - March 17, 2010, 09:45 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:44 PM
How do you assess your progress? (adequate for you islame?)

In what?

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Reply #312 - March 17, 2010, 09:45 PM

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How do you assess your spiritual progress?

As long as I'm not considering all of humanity not following the same creed as me to be kuffars, women to be inferior cattle, and the cruelties and oppression of 643 AD Arabia aren't my moral source code, my spiritual progress is good

How about you?

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Reply #313 - March 17, 2010, 09:46 PM

Quote from: Iblis on March 17, 2010, 09:45 PM
In what?

as a person. the development of your soul
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Reply #314 - March 17, 2010, 09:47 PM

Quote from: billy on March 17, 2010, 09:45 PM
As long as I'm not considering all of humanity not following the same creed as me to be kuffars, women to be inferior cattle, and the cruelties and oppression of 643 AD Arabia aren't my moral source code, my spiritual progress is good

How about you?

As long as you don't hate people its good... hmm well of course i can manage universal love...so I guess we agree. Indeed it would be a good state for us both to be in.
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Reply #315 - March 17, 2010, 09:48 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:46 PM
as a person. the development of your soul

There is no soul.

As a person, a person involve many things. You need to be more specific. Fitness progress? How long I can stay erect? My knowledge of dildos? What?

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Reply #316 - March 17, 2010, 09:49 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:47 PM
As long as you don't hate people its good... hmm well of course i can manage universal love...so I guess we agree. Indeed it would be a good state for us both to be in.

You don't believe in Islam then. Love in Islam is conditional and not universal. Kuffars and Muslim women don't get any universal love.

Time for you to apostate dude

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Reply #317 - March 17, 2010, 09:51 PM

your morality. iblis. How do you measure its development
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Reply #318 - March 17, 2010, 09:52 PM

Quote from: billy on March 17, 2010, 09:49 PM

You don't believe in Islam then. Love in Islam is conditional and not universal. Kuffars and Muslim women don't get any universal love.

Time for you to apostate dude

sorry you are wrong there.
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Reply #319 - March 17, 2010, 09:53 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:51 PM
your morality. iblis. How do you measure its development

Morality is totally subjective, how can you measure the development of such a thing?

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Reply #320 - March 17, 2010, 09:58 PM

Its quite amazing how you are like sharks in a feeding frenzy asking questions but far more reticent to open up and examine your own beliefs. I think some of you are delusional enough to think you have a righteous superiority, again the comparisons with fundies are striking hence why you keep longing to talk to them. simple truths....You slip and slide around the topic some of the thicker types by simple abuse and others by trying to always turn back to questioning. You cant see trees for the woods. Islame and hassan have slunk away. There used to be a guy Omar Khayam on here I recall he seemed to have some sense and dignity...I hope he has moved on for his sake!
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Reply #321 - March 17, 2010, 09:59 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:52 PM
sorry you are wrong there.

You are in denial, or a liar. What I said is the pure truth. It might be harsh, but the truth will set you free.

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Reply #322 - March 17, 2010, 10:00 PM

Quote from: Iblis on March 17, 2010, 09:53 PM

Morality is totally subjective, how can you measure the development of such a thing?

You have faith in that there is no objective reality are you really a believer in that?
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Reply #323 - March 17, 2010, 10:00 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:44 PM
ok.. so where does it lead you.

to a correct ethical code I hope

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How do you assess your progress?

I dont have a litmus test or a graph as such. But by talking to a variety of people, debate, reading etc etc but the Golden Rule covers most things for me.

Do you, or is Islam enough? How do you decide that its not right to have sex with 9 years olds if the prophet did it?

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(adequate for you islame?)

Of course, otherwise I would change it?

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Reply #324 - March 17, 2010, 10:01 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:58 PM
Its quite amazing how you are like sharks in a feeding frenzy asking questions but far more reticent to open up and examine your own beliefs. I think some of you are delusional enough to think you have a righteous superiority, again the comparisons with fundies are striking hence why you keep longing to talk to them. simple truths....You slip and slide around the topic some of the thicker types by simple abuse and others by trying to always turn back to questioning. You cant see trees for the woods. Islame and hassan have slunk away. There used to be a guy Omar Khayam on here I recall he seemed to have some sense and dignity...I hope he has moved on for his sake!

Why don't you go and debate muslims for their fundamental views? I don't think your making any headway here.
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Reply #325 - March 17, 2010, 10:02 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:58 PM
Its quite amazing how you are like sharks in a feeding frenzy asking questions but far more reticent to open up and examine your own beliefs. I think some of you are delusional enough to think you have a righteous superiority, again the comparisons with fundies are striking hence why you keep longing to talk to them. simple truths....You slip and slide around the topic some of the thicker types by simple abuse and others by trying to always turn back to questioning. You cant see trees for the woods. Islame and hassan have slunk away. There used to be a guy Omar Khayam on here I recall he seemed to have some sense and dignity...I hope he has moved on for his sake!

Hysterical tantrum? Ah, we were expecting that.

Now, has the red mist cleared? OK, here's the answer to your question.

Omar is very much still here and one of the most respected and loved contributors. You see, its Islam that he had to move on from, for his own sake.

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Reply #326 - March 17, 2010, 10:03 PM

Quote from: lightrays on March 17, 2010, 09:52 PM
sorry you seem very definite billy..I can't love a non muslim or a woman. Is that your assertion. And if I do I am not a Muslim. Oh ok then you clearly know what you mean... I doubt anyone else does but please dont bother to explain. tell me more about how you KNOW these things (do you hear voices).
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Reply #327 - March 17, 2010, 10:06 PM

Quote from: IsLame on March 17, 2010, 10:00 PM
to a correct ethical code I hope

Thats good were are achieving such a coming together...this is nice. You measure it against others behaviour then..good and do you feel of all those instances of good actions there is a standard some objective reality of good (universal vlaues) or like iblis our friend do you say that it is definitely only subjetive
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Reply #328 - March 17, 2010, 10:07 PM

lightrays - Mohammad heard voices in his head, so don't knock it.

Look, I understand this is painful to you. The reality often is to Muslims. Being confronted with these things is hard. You are capable of overcoming the stupidity of Islam's conception of the world because your natural human curiosity and desire overcomes what Islam teaches. But that doesn't change what Islam teaches - and it does not teach love.

A Muslim is human first of all, and can ignore all that, and can rise above that law of Islam. So see it as a triumph of the human spirit over the dogma of a hateful god.

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Reply #329 - March 17, 2010, 10:07 PM

Quote from: BlackDog on March 17, 2010, 10:01 PM
Why don't you go and debate muslims for their fundamental views? I don't think your making any headway here.

and you black dog do you seek to live a virtuous life and if so how do you know what is good?
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