No I don't know why you don't like veiling. Why don't you just spill it shaykh.
C'mon dude!
No ad-homs please! They speak poorly of those who use them.
Besides you said that you are interested in exchange of ideas and specifically not in exchange of insults. I have always been civil to you and I do expect this to be reciprocated.
I do hope you understand that.
Besides I am not a shaykh. My Shifu is the best Sith lord there is.
The veil issue has been done to death already therefore I will simply repost my stuff:
Do you remember when Australia most senior Muslim cleric caused an controversy (after a bunch of Muslims were jailed for gang rape in Australia) when he said: “If you take uncovered meat and place it outside on the street … and cats come and eat it … whose fault is it – the cats’ or the uncovered meat?
The uncovered meat is the problem.”
At a face value this is an affront to women because it dehumanises women comparing them to uncovered meat. But such view is too simplistic.
There is a much more surprising implication – that Muslim men are like animals. “If women are held responsible for the sexual conduct of men, does this not imply that men are totally helpless when faced with what they perceive as sexual temptation , that they are simply unable to resist it, that they are utterly in thrall to their sexual hunger like a cat when it sees raw meat." This implies a complete lack of male sexual responsibility for their own sexual conduct and thus effectively dehumanises men much more then it does women.
Yes, fundamentally what this cleric said (and the restriction regarding "modesty" in itself) is much more offensive to Muslim men than to Muslim women yet interestingly Muslim men almost unanimously supported him.
Therefore in essence the demand for covering is an affront to and dehumanising for both men and women but interestingly the men are really the ones that should have an issue with it because this demand dehumanises them much more than it does women.
I find this interesting because it shows how little respect there is in Islam not just for the other but interestingly for its own followers too.
Yet, ironically, Muslims are almost always unanimously demanding respect from others.
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