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Re: Ground Zero Mosque being Called "Cordoba House"
Reply #210 - August 02, 2010, 09:55 PM

Quote from: XxThaminaxX on August 02, 2010, 09:16 PM
How far would you like it to be away from the WTC?

It's not a question of what I like, but they could have had the decency to build it some distance away and not come up with the bullshit argument of building it to remember the victims as well. You have not answered my question as regarding the traitor issue..

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Reply #211 - August 02, 2010, 10:06 PM

Don't forget a few dozen muslims died as well on 9/11 I think its around 52. Sorry just read it now I'll reply there.
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Re: Ground Zero Mosque being Called "Cordoba House"
Reply #212 - August 02, 2010, 10:10 PM

Quote from: XxThaminaxX on August 02, 2010, 10:06 PM
Don't forget a few dozen muslims died as well on 9/11 I think its around 52. Sorry just read it now I'll reply there.

Yeah so? Are they more special than the Christian majority who died? By your reasoning they should be remembered by building a church as they barely make up 1% of those killed. The fact that Muslims died is an even better reason why they shouldn't be remembered by a building a mosque considering that their killers were screaming Allahu akbar before they crashed the plane into the sky scrapers. How about a secular memorial instead? Would be a nice idea, they would all be remembered together as unfortunate victims of religious extremism and not as Christians or Muslims.

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Reply #213 - August 02, 2010, 10:48 PM

Let them build a church I don't care! How do you know they screamed that? were you there? they could have been pissing their pants!
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Reply #214 - August 02, 2010, 10:50 PM

Quote from: Tlaloc on August 02, 2010, 08:08 PM
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Reply #215 - August 02, 2010, 10:51 PM

http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/cordoba-house-new-york-city

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Reply #216 - August 02, 2010, 10:53 PM

I can say I don't care one way or the other about this. However, I suggest the absolute best case scenereo is for the US governemnt to fund the building of the mosque themselves, and hire their own ultra-liberal Imam to preach a very moderate version of Islam.
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Reply #217 - August 02, 2010, 10:57 PM

Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on August 02, 2010, 10:51 PM
http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/cordoba-house-new-york-city

"The site will contain tremendous amounts of resources that otherwise would not exist in Lower Manhattan; a 500-seat auditorium, swimming pool, art exhibition spaces, bookstores, restaurants - all these services would form a cultural nexus for a region of New York City that, as it continues to grow, requires the sort of hub that Cordoba House will provide."

If that is true. I think it should go ahead 100%
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Reply #218 - August 02, 2010, 10:58 PM

Quote from: XxThaminaxX on August 02, 2010, 10:48 PM
Let them build a church I don't care! How do you know they screamed that? were you there? they could have been pissing their pants!

They were Islamists. The organisation that sent them to train and carry out their mission had (and still has) a religious agenda.

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Reply #219 - August 03, 2010, 12:25 AM

Quote from: zoomi on August 02, 2010, 10:53 PM
I can say I don't care one way or the other about this. However, I suggest the absolute best case scenereo is for the US governemnt to fund the building of the mosque themselves, and hire their own ultra-liberal Imam to preach a very moderate version of Islam.

Creative idea, but quite unworkable as it would patently violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the US Constitution.

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Reply #220 - August 03, 2010, 05:24 AM

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Reply #221 - August 03, 2010, 05:24 AM

Quote from: Q-Man on August 02, 2010, 03:22 PM
Not sure if Americans have that right, but the Iraqis certainly do.

So what would you say is the current situation for Iraq's indigenous populatation of Christians at the moment Q-man? Good? Bad?

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Reply #222 - August 03, 2010, 05:32 AM

Quote from: XxThaminaxX
You can't pray in a bathroom.

As I have pointed out elsewhere, there are already over a hundred mosques in New York city for Muslims to grovel to their cube in the desert. Why is this one necessary?

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Reply #223 - August 03, 2010, 05:40 AM

US Christian and Jewish groups should apply to the Saudi government to build similarly imposing synagogues and churches in Mecca and, when this is refused, present New York Muslim proponents of the "ground zero" mosque and Cordoba Initiative people with a petition requesting the Saudi government reconsider their decision. What do you think of that idea Q-man?

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Reply #224 - August 03, 2010, 05:47 AM

Yea! Let's be more like Saudi Arabia!

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Re: Ground Zero Mosque being Called "Cordoba House"
Reply #225 - August 03, 2010, 05:55 AM

Quote from: DH on August 03, 2010, 05:24 AM
So what would you say is the current situation for Iraq's indigenous populatation of Christians at the moment Q-man? Good? Bad?

Bad specially during 2006 and 2007. Probably more so than the situation of Iraqi Muslims. Almost 40 churches were attacked/vandalized since 2003. And almost a quarter of Iraqi Christians have fled since 2003 while only 10% of Muslims fled.

The situation has been improving, although in my opinion not enough. Christians now have 5 seats in the Iraqi Parliament as opposed to 2 in the previous government. [see: http://www.faithfulnews.com/contents/view_content/58420]
And they have 6 reserved seats in the Kurdistan Regional Parliament. [see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdistan_legislative_election,_2009#Results].

Many Imams and sheikhs issued fatwas prohibiting the attacks on Christians. And the government is taking steps to protect Christians and churches. [see: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/21/iraq.christmas/index.html#cnnSTCVideo].

If you really are interested in this, I suggest you join this forum and ask the members: http://www.assyrianvoice.net/forum/index.php

EDIT: also this is the website of the largest Assyrian party in Iraq: http://www.admzowaa.com/
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Reply #226 - August 03, 2010, 05:58 AM

If you go to Facebook and search for groups about "ground zero mosque" all you will see hatred groups. DH must belong to one of those crowds.
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Reply #227 - August 03, 2010, 06:05 AM

Quote from: _truth_
If you go to Facebook and search for groups about "ground zero mosque" all you will see hatred groups. DH must belong to one of those crowds.

Why must I? What have I written on this subject that indicates this? Why did you leave Islam BTW _truth_?

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Reply #228 - August 03, 2010, 06:08 AM

What percentage of Iraq's native Christians have actually left the country Iraqi Atheist?

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Reply #229 - August 03, 2010, 06:20 AM

Quote from: DH on August 03, 2010, 06:05 AM
Why must I? What have I written on this subject that indicates this? Why did you leave Islam BTW _truth_?

because your arguments are the same narrow minded arguments all over the facebook groups. I suggest you take at the look at the wall posts. You will see that your arguments and their arguments mirror each other. The only difference it would be you are not blatantly insulting Muslims with derogatory insults because I guess of forum restrictions which they have none.
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Reply #230 - August 03, 2010, 06:20 AM

Quote from: DH on August 03, 2010, 06:08 AM
What percentage of Iraq's native Christians have actually left the country Iraqi Atheist?

Jesus fucking Christ ! Did you even read my post?
I don't why I even bothered writing it and providing links. I should never make this mistake again and assume you're looking for a an informed discussion.

I'm getting tired of this shit.
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Reply #231 - August 03, 2010, 06:44 AM

Keep your cool IA! "Fled" could mean "fled their homes to other areas of Iraq". I was just looking for clarification. I assumed you had this info at hand and could save me the trouble of searching it out.

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Reply #232 - August 03, 2010, 06:45 AM

Quote from: _truth_ on August 03, 2010, 06:20 AM
because your arguments are the same narrow minded arguments all over the facebook groups. I suggest you take at the look at the wall posts. You will see that your arguments and their arguments mirror each other. The only difference it would be you are not blatantly insulting Muslims with derogatory insults because I guess of forum restrictions which they have none.

Which of my arguments do you find most "narrow minded"? Why did you leave Islam BTW _truth_?

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Reply #233 - August 03, 2010, 06:51 AM

Quote from: DH on August 03, 2010, 06:44 AM
Keep your cool IA! "Fled" could mean "fled their homes to other areas of Iraq". I was just looking for clarification. I assumed you had this info at hand and could save me the trouble of searching it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_refugees#Assyrian_Christians
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Reply #234 - August 03, 2010, 06:59 AM

Quote from: DH on August 03, 2010, 06:45 AM
Which of my arguments do you find most "narrow minded"? Why did you leave Islam BTW _truth_?

DH what is it to you why I left Islam. Why haven't you left Christianity yet?
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Reply #235 - August 03, 2010, 07:22 AM

I do not regard myself as a Christian. So which of the things I have written on the proposed mosque do you think are "narrow minded"?

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Reply #236 - August 03, 2010, 09:23 AM

Quote from: ras111 on August 02, 2010, 10:58 PM
They were Islamists. The organisation that sent them to train and carry out their mission had (and still has) a religious agenda.

That doesn't mean they said "allahu akbar"
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Reply #237 - August 03, 2010, 09:25 AM

Quote from: DH on August 03, 2010, 05:40 AM
US Christian and Jewish groups should apply to the Saudi government to build similarly imposing synagogues and churches in Mecca and, when this is refused, present New York Muslim proponents of the "ground zero" mosque and Cordoba Initiative people with a petition requesting the Saudi government reconsider their decision. What do you think of that idea Q-man?

Mecca? That's like building a Mosque or a Synagogue in Vatican city! You could argue they should allow churches in Saudi but not in Mecca or Medina.
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Reply #238 - August 03, 2010, 09:57 AM

Quote from: XxThaminaxX on August 03, 2010, 09:25 AM
Mecca? That's like building a Mosque or a Synagogue in Vatican city! You could argue they should allow churches in Saudi but not in Mecca or Medina.

Using Vatican City is a stupid comparison.
It lacks the physical space to build anything.

You should say "that's like building a Mosque or a Synagogue in Rome".
Except you cannot say that since it would prove your point wrong :S

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Re: Ground Zero Mosque being Called "Cordoba House"
Reply #239 - August 03, 2010, 10:02 AM

Quote from: DH on August 03, 2010, 07:22 AM
I do not regard myself as a Christian. So which of the things I have written on the proposed mosque do you think are "narrow minded"?

Interesting choice of words.
Are you saying you are NOT Christian?
Or that you do not "regard yourself" as Christian but do not exclude the possibility that maybe you are indeed Christian?

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