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Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
OP - March 11, 2011, 04:00 PM

muddy
Today at 08:33 AM
I had a dream that I was eating meat. Now I am disgusted with myself.
Q-Man
Today at 08:38 AM
You're a veggie, muddy?
muddy
Today at 08:40 AM
Yes, since last 2 weeks.
Q-Man
Today at 08:42 AM
Loser
muddy
Today at 08:44 AM
If after watching this video, you still think you can eat meat ever again,.. (complete the sentence the way you like)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THIODWTqx5E
Q-Man
Today at 08:46 AM
I can't watch it muddy cause I no longer have a YT account, but I've seen videos like it before. Doesn't stop my craving for meat one bit.
Q-Man
Today at 08:47 AM
Also, you could always eat free-range/organic or hunted meat.
muddy
Today at 08:50 AM
So you really think hunting an animal or giving them regular diet and slaughtering them later on is any way sane, then go right ahead.
Also, you do not need a YT account to watch it.
Q-Man
Today at 08:54 AM
Yes, it's sane because we're omnivorous apex predators and meat has a higher bioavailability than plant protein. Swearing off meat entirely, no matter how it is raised or killed, because you watched some vegan propaganda video of factory farming is what's insane.
Q-Man
Today at 08:55 AM
As far as viewing the vid goes, I get this message-- To view this video or group, please verify you are 18 or older by signing in or signing up.
muddy
Today at 08:55 AM
Killing any live being that have feelings and can smile is just like eating your own baby.
Q-Man
Today at 08:55 AM
But like I said, doesn't matter as I've seen such videos before
Q-Man
Today at 08:56 AM
Cheesy Whatever muddy. You want to get self-righteous and think you're morally superior to the hundreds of millions of meat-eating humans out there, go for it, but I say you're full of shit.
muddy
Today at 08:57 AM
Point is just not a video. Right now arguing with you is looking like arguing with a mullah..
Q-Man
Today at 08:57 AM
We're animals who eat other animals for their protein. Get over yourself.
muddy
Today at 08:58 AM
I am not trying to be morally superior. I want all the human beings to be equally morally superior..
Q-Man
Today at 08:58 AM
Really, muddy? Like a mullah? So where did I appeal to superstition or religious authority? Where, muddy?
muddy
Today at 08:59 AM
We are animals, and we did develop more intelligence than them to understand what is right and what is wrong.
muddy
Today at 08:59 AM
You are following the religion of being carnivore.
Q-Man
Today at 09:01 AM
Yep, and my reasoning ability says that eating other animals for protein is not wrong. We are omnivorous apex predators-- consumption of meat is natural. However when it comes to factory farming I do understand the moral objections to that.
Q-Man
Today at 09:03 AM
Religion of being carnivore? That makes no goddamn sense muddy. How is pointing out our place in the food chain and the bioavailability of animal protein in any way "religious"?
muddy
Today at 09:05 AM
Humans are not evolved to eat meat. We don't have pointy teeth. The only way we can eat it is it is finally chopped and properly cooked. Monkeys don't eat meat.
Q-Man
Today at 09:10 AM
No muddy, we aren't evolved to eat PRIMARILY meat, but we are evolved to have it as part of out diet, which is why we have incisors. And that monkeys don't eat meat is irrelevant, as we aren't monkeys.
mighty_cats
Today at 09:13 AM
A number of apes have began to hunt with spears to kill and eat bushbabies (some kind of rodent).
Q-Man
Today at 09:15 AM
And chimps eat meat
Q-Man
Today at 09:17 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate#Diet_and_feeding
Q-Man
Today at 09:19 AM
Also, muddy, in places where the human diet is largely carnivorous, due to a lack of plant protein-- like say, Mongolia and the Arctic-- are these people committing immoral acts akin to eating their children?
Q-Man
Today at 09:24 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_nutrition#History
muddy
Today at 09:27 AM
I don't like debating in shout box.. Create a thread if you want to discuss.
Peace!!
Q-Man
Today at 09:29 AM
You started it :p

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Re: Being Vegetarian (continued from shout box)
Reply #1 - March 11, 2011, 04:02 PM

Anyways, whatever our evolutionary history is, it has many flaws, specially when it gave us religion. Anyways, if you can feel like eating something that smiles, you are a moron..

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Reply #2 - March 11, 2011, 04:03 PM

Weird, now I don't have to sign in to watch the video, but I did before. Anyhow, I'll watch it after I go grab this here cheeseburger

Quote from: muddy on March 11, 2011, 04:02 PM
Anyways, whatever our evolutionary history is, it has many flaws, specially when it gave us religion. Anyways, if you can feel like eating something that smiles, you are a moron..

So until exactly two weeks ago, you were a moron.

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Reply #3 - March 11, 2011, 04:09 PM

Yes, I was.. Now I am healed by the amazing powers of flying speghetti monster..

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Reply #4 - March 11, 2011, 04:15 PM

Cows taste really good.

Sorry, but someone had to say it eventually.
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Reply #5 - March 11, 2011, 04:22 PM

Next time you look at beef, wait for few seconds. And than give deep thought how was the life of this cow. Did she have family members. Did her mom and dad enjoyed at her birth? What phases of life did she went through?

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Reply #6 - March 11, 2011, 04:33 PM

Quote from: muddy on March 11, 2011, 04:22 PM
Next time you look at beef, wait for few seconds. And than give deep thought how was the life of this cow. Did she have family members. Did her mom and dad enjoyed at her birth? What phases of life did she went through?

Hell, I just did better than that-- I named my cheeseburger I just had Bessie, and man Bessie was delicious.

Seriously, though, there are tribes that do that sort of thing (venerate the animal they are about to eat), but they still eat it.

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Reply #7 - March 11, 2011, 04:49 PM

Quote from: muddy on March 11, 2011, 04:22 PM
Next time you look at beef, wait for few seconds. And than give deep thought how was the life of this cow. Did she have family members. Did her mom and dad enjoyed at her birth? What phases of life did she went through?

What about all those poor bugs, killed with toxic fumes, drowned in water, crushed between other vegtables as they're being tossed around. Every day, millions of little innocent bugs are killed, when all they wanted was to say hi...all just so you can chew on a green stick.
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Reply #8 - March 11, 2011, 05:14 PM

Yeah, but they don´t smile.

Cows on the other hand

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Reply #9 - March 11, 2011, 05:23 PM
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Reply #10 - March 11, 2011, 05:40 PM

Its just a cartoon cats

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Reply #11 - March 11, 2011, 06:11 PM

Quote from: muddy on March 11, 2011, 04:22 PM
Next time you look at beef, wait for few seconds. And than give deep thought how was the life of this cow. Did she have family members. Did her mom and dad enjoyed at her birth? What phases of life did she went through?

be careful muddy., if you become "PURE VEGETARIAN" even cows will eat you..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9vxHN8_jSE

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Reply #12 - March 11, 2011, 06:21 PM

Quote from: muddy on March 11, 2011, 05:40 PM
Its just a cartoon cats

As opposed to the laughing cow picture?
I've seen that picture on a cheese box. Cows don't wear cheese box earrings or laugh and smile about it.
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Reply #13 - March 11, 2011, 06:30 PM

Stop the slaughter of plants and trees they are living beings! It's immoral to eat anything that's alive or was living! Oh noes!!!
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Reply #14 - March 11, 2011, 06:47 PM

Give peas a chance
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Reply #15 - March 11, 2011, 06:48 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on March 11, 2011, 06:11 PM
be careful muddy., if you become "PURE VEGETARIAN" even cows will eat you..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9vxHN8_jSE

I am a bit too smart for that.
Quote from: mighty_cats on March 11, 2011, 06:21 PM
As opposed to the laughing cow picture?
I've seen that picture on a cheese box. Cows don't wear cheese box earrings or laugh and smile about it.

Cows still smile..
Quote from: superomario on March 11, 2011, 06:30 PM
Stop the slaughter of plants and trees they are living beings! It's immoral to eat anything that's alive or was living! Oh noes!!!

Plants don't have hearts and brains.. So they don't have any emotions.
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Give peas a chance

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Reply #16 - March 11, 2011, 06:54 PM

Because of the retarded hippy shit you said in this thread, Muddy, I'm going to eat double the amount of meat this week.

I hope you can live with yourself knowing you have caused animals to die.

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Reply #17 - March 11, 2011, 07:05 PM

No one eats double the amount of meat.. Thats bull shit. Even GING told me in the chat he is going to eat tripple the amount of meat every time I don't eat meat.

I am sure, next time you are planning to eat meat, the painful face of that poor little baby pig in the video whose testicles were being removed will haunt you. Because I know you aren't a bad person. Don't try so hard to act like one.

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Reply #18 - March 11, 2011, 07:15 PM

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Reply #19 - March 11, 2011, 07:15 PM

Seriously though, if you honestly think you are capable of producing a convincing argument against eating meat, one that isn't emo nonsense or just plain trite, one that I have not heard a hundred times before, go ahead. Surprise me. I'm listening.

Meanwhile, all this talk of dead animals is making me hungry.

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Reply #20 - March 11, 2011, 07:18 PM

Quote from: muddy on March 11, 2011, 07:05 PM
No one eats double the amount of meat.. Thats bull shit. Even GING told me in the chat he is going to eat tripple the amount of meat every time I don't eat meat.

I am sure, next time you are planning to eat meat, the painful face of that poor little baby pig in the video whose testicles were being removed will haunt you. Because I know you aren't a bad person. Don't try so hard to act like one.

I won't increase my intake, but when veggies annoy me I do eat veal, which I don't even particularly like, so guess what's going on my dinner menu tonight thanks to you?

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Reply #21 - March 11, 2011, 07:22 PM

BTW Muddy, you have about 30 mins before I start getting ready to go out tonight. If you can convince me in that time, and if I'm not too drunk later to remember this, I promise I will not get a take away on the way home from the club, or I'll get a salad or something.

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Reply #22 - March 11, 2011, 07:25 PM

^ Takeaways make you fat. Salad more healthy.

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Reply #23 - March 11, 2011, 07:26 PM

you need animal protein, plus iron is better from meat than veggies.I love chickens
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Reply #24 - March 11, 2011, 07:28 PM

Quote from: donatelo on March 11, 2011, 07:25 PM
^ Takeaways make you fat. Salad more healthy.

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I'll burn off more calories than a take away dancing tonight and fucking afterwards.

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Reply #25 - March 11, 2011, 07:29 PM

No u won't, it'll take you nearly 3 days to catch up with it.

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Reply #26 - March 11, 2011, 07:31 PM

Why am I not fat then?

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Reply #27 - March 11, 2011, 07:31 PM

How do we know you're not?

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Reply #28 - March 11, 2011, 07:32 PM

Quote from: Ishina on March 11, 2011, 07:22 PM
BTW Muddy, you have about 30 mins before I start getting ready to go out tonight. If you can convince me in that time, and if I'm not too drunk later to remember this, I promise I will not get a take away on the way home from the club, or I'll get a salad or something.

Go right ahead.. The expressions on the face of baby pig will continue to haunt you.

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Reply #29 - March 11, 2011, 07:35 PM

Quote from: donatelo on March 11, 2011, 07:31 PM
How do we know you're not?

She's not. Q-Man would do bad things to her, very bad things.

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