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  • Question: Which one (if any) are you more inclined to side with? (Give reasons)
  • Israel - 50 (30.5%)
  • Palestine - 114 (69.5%)
  • Total Voters: 163

 Topic: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?

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  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #300 - September 08, 2011, 08:27 PM

    Where is the "I don't give a fuck" option?

    Or the "A plague on both their houses option."

    There's only one thing more boring than Northern Ireland, and that's Israel-Palestine.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #301 - September 08, 2011, 08:54 PM

    Don't you give a fuck how the Palestinian people are hemmed into an open-air prison in Gaza? 


    I give as much of a fuck as you do about how people suffering in Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe etc.

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #302 - September 08, 2011, 09:21 PM

    But that's different, they aren't suffering because of evil Israel are they?   

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #303 - September 08, 2011, 09:33 PM

    Don't you give a fuck how the Palestinian people are hemmed into an open-air prison in Gaza?  


    They are in an open-air "prison" that gets huge amounts of food shipped in, has more aid per person spent on them than any other group of people on the planet (much of which is siphoned off by the leadership).

    There is a neccessity to keep tight controls on the border, as they stop suicide bombers regularly, and at least slow down shipments of rockets to the assorted terror groups. Without these controls, there would be huge amounts of israelis killed regularly

    I've been driven mad trying to prove my sanity
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #304 - September 08, 2011, 09:43 PM

    I give as much of a fuck as you do about how people suffering in Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe etc.


    In my case I know my tax dollars are going towards directly funding the oppression in Palestine to the tune of billions of dollars, not to mention the diplomatic support my government gives at the UNSC-- not the case with the others you mentioned.

    They are in an open-air "prison" that gets huge amounts of food shipped in, has more aid per person spent on them than any other group of people on the planet (much of which is siphoned off by the leadership).

    There is a neccessity to keep tight controls on the border, as they stop suicide bombers regularly, and at least slow down shipments of rockets to the assorted terror groups. Without these controls, there would be huge amounts of israelis killed regularly


    da finga

    Yep, that makes the land theft, expulsions/ethnic cleansing, and decades of foreign military occupation that caused this situation okay and Israel gets off scot-free.  Roll Eyes Tard.

    fuck you
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #305 - September 08, 2011, 10:00 PM

    Don't  you give a fuck how the Palestinian people are hemmed into an open-air prison in Gaza?  

    off course we care about people Palestinians or other wise ., But we must have enough background of both sides before we come to give the fuck to people..

    Here let us read this   dear Maya and think about it..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #306 - September 08, 2011, 10:06 PM

    But we must have enough background of both sides before we come to give the fuck to people..


    Shilaki: You can give the fuck to me anytime, yeezevee.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #307 - September 08, 2011, 10:06 PM

    In my case I know my tax dollars are going towards directly funding the oppression in Palestine to the tune of billions of dollars, not to mention the diplomatic support my government gives at the UNSC-- not the case with the others you mentioned.

    da finga

    .............Roll Eyes Tard.

    don't you worry about your tax dollars Colonel some of them also going into Palestine people unfortunately our heroes .. and the leaders of Palestine people spend that on suicide bomb training .. Jihad .. Jihad training or elect leaders who try islamize  whole generation .

    But their is hope.. the future will be different.. I hope Arab will spring puts some brain in to common man in Palestine..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #308 - September 08, 2011, 10:10 PM

    off course we care about people Palestinians or other wise ., But we must have enough background of both sides before we come to give the fuck to people..

    Here let us read this   dear Maya and think about it..


    LOL yeezevee did you link the wrong article there?  

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #309 - September 08, 2011, 10:11 PM

    I used to support the Palestinians, though I think that was out of naivety, the Arabs simply will always fall back on their Islamic identity/mentality which is just brutal and sicking, the Palestinians have more freedom and in Israel then they do in Palestine. Many of them sell their houses to settlers and move to Israel and pretend they were kicked out by settlers so they don't face backlash and harassment for selling to settlers.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #310 - September 08, 2011, 10:21 PM

    In my case I know my tax dollars are going towards directly funding the oppression in Palestine to the tune of billions of dollars, not to mention the diplomatic support my government gives at the UNSC-- not the case with the others you mentioned.

    da finga

    Yep, that makes the land theft, expulsions/ethnic cleansing, and decades of foreign military occupation that caused this situation okay and Israel gets off scot-free.  Roll Eyes Tard.


    Israel wants to give the land that it is occupying back.. with security assurances that they are not being given. If the assorted arab states not gone to war to destroy Israel the moment it was created, it would be a tiny state today not much bigger than the Gaza strip. Unfortunately, there is very little un-biased information out there, and somewhere in the middle lies the truth. It was a jewish majority area pre-1948, of little interest to most. Most of the jews settling there initially were expelled from islamic nations. Do they get theior land back?.

    Israel is guilty of some pretty unforgivable tactics with regards placements of settlements, but much of what they are accused of even in the western media is unfiltered propaganda

    I've been driven mad trying to prove my sanity
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #311 - September 08, 2011, 10:26 PM

                                



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #312 - September 08, 2011, 10:28 PM

    Israel wants to give the land that it is occupying back.. with security assurances that they are not being given. If the assorted arab states not gone to war to destroy Israel the moment it was created, it would be a tiny state today not much bigger than the Gaza strip. Unfortunately, there is very little un-biased information out there, and somewhere in the middle lies the truth. It was a jewish majority area pre-1948, of little interest to most. Most of the jews settling there initially were expelled from islamic nations. Do they get theior land back?.

    Israel is guilty of some pretty unforgivable tactics with regards placements of settlements, but much of what they are accused of even in the western media is unfiltered propaganda


    Wow, you just crammed so much bullshit into one post I can't even be bothered picking it all apart right now. Maybe later unless someone beats me to the punch to refute your outright LIES and spin. People who spread propaganda and lies to defend the oppressors are some of the most sickening folks I've come across, and you stink, kid.

    fuck you
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #313 - September 08, 2011, 10:34 PM

    If the assorted arab states not gone to war to destroy Israel the moment it was created, it would be a tiny state today not much bigger than the Gaza strip.


    Well just  Lmao at that for one.

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #314 - September 08, 2011, 10:45 PM

    But that's different, they aren't suffering because of evil Israel are they?

    Palestinians are suffering, that has nothing to do with Isreal. The Palestinians are suffering has everything to do with religion, Islam mostly and Judaism to some extent. Take the religion out of the equation, I am sure the problem can be solved, it won't be easy but they will find a way.   

    वासुदैव कुटुम्बकम्
    Entire World is One Family
    سارا سنسار ايک پريوار ہے
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #315 - September 08, 2011, 10:47 PM

     



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #316 - September 08, 2011, 10:55 PM

    Palestinians are suffering, that has nothing to do with Isreal. The Palestinians are suffering has everything to do with religion, Islam mostly and Judaism to some extent. Take the religion out of the equation, I am sure the problem can be solved, it won't be easy but they will find a way.   


    FFS forget religion and tell me who is sanctioning innocent people, blockading them, occupying them, stealing their land, pushing them into an ever-decreasing hell-hole if not Israel?   

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #317 - September 08, 2011, 11:09 PM

     A quote i didn't relate to when i heard a few years ago

    " If you can go to war then do it"

    We're at freaking war everyday anyways. Take this thread for example.

    I read a bit of the Art of war last week. If I  apply it human daily interaction. It applies. how different are we from Isreal if you go back to the basics? We all want to win when we are not content with what we have.





    "Tomorrow is the today you were worried about yesterday" Unknown
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #318 - September 09, 2011, 01:13 AM

    LOL yeezevee did you link the wrong article there?  

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.. that is the right link..

    Now let us watch the videos..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Byz2uKmF8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbqXzXkOud4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm46Hd9ONVc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVXmlAAUW8w

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muoxobXdlRE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySTPawBVMlo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EujeQUmv00M


    You know why those things happening there?? That is  because fucking leaders & preachers  that come out of political Islam.  There were hardly 2 million Palestinian people in 1960..  whole world, whole Islamic world.. all the leaders from Islamic countries with millions of squares  miles land  around That little Israel could not find homes & houses and proper demarcation for 2million  Palestinians next  to Israel??

    You know why??  these  idiots with political Islam in their sand filled brain  with Islamic scripture and Mullah fools shouting in mosques day in and day out.... allah will help all Muslim with houries in heavens .. Go Jihad.. Jihad... wanted to completely eliminate Juice from that land.  They want every one in that land  allah loving burkha wearing zombies.    Read carefully all those peace treaties starting from Jimmy Carter era  dear Maya..

    Idiots in Islamic clothes..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #319 - September 09, 2011, 01:34 AM

     Cheesy Lmao



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #320 - September 09, 2011, 05:17 AM

    Quote from: Sakura02
    BUT if you live in Israel, you'd have more opportunities than you would in many Arab countries. Women's rights, education which promotes, science and technology instead of religious ideology, the authorities will protect you as a law abiding citizen, no blasphemy laws or lashings for dressing in a certain way. It's a progressive society, which is desperately needed in that part of the world.


    If the dream of so many here ever comes about there is going to be several million jews needing a new country to live in. I propose a straight exchange in equal number of western resident anti-Israel Muslims and their ex-Muslim cohorts for equal number of Jews.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #321 - September 09, 2011, 09:04 AM

    I propose a straight exchange in equal number of western resident anti-Israel Muslims and their ex-Muslim cohorts for equal number of Jews.

    Transportation for free-thinkers, eh?

    You undermine your interesting points with rancorous nonsense like this.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #322 - September 09, 2011, 09:20 AM

    Quote from: David
    Transportation for free-thinkers, eh?


    Freethinkers? Where?

    Quote
    You undermine your interesting points with rancorous nonsense like this.


    Nothing "rancorous" about the incessant demonization of Israel and the morbid desire for it to be amalgamated with that total hell hole da Palestinyuns have CREATED FOR THEMSELVES?

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #323 - September 09, 2011, 03:24 PM

    the incessant demonization of Israel

    Yes, that's a bit silly, but there are nuanced voices on here too, ex-Muslims among them.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #324 - September 09, 2011, 06:14 PM

    Watch until the end

    http://www.sprword.com/videos/occupation101/


    Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
    T.S.Eliot
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #325 - September 09, 2011, 10:44 PM

    Pro Isralestine mother fuckas

    "The words that oscillate between nonsense and supreme meaning are the oldest and truest." - C.G. Jung
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #326 - September 10, 2011, 01:41 AM

    FFS forget religion and tell me who is sanctioning innocent people, blockading them, occupying them, stealing their land, pushing them into an ever-decreasing hell-hole if not Israel?

    I strongly disagree. It is Arabs who attacked Israel in 1967. They lost. Therefore, legally, the all of the West Bank and the Gaza belong to Israel.

    If Arabs had won the 1967 war, Israel would not be existing today. Arabs would have killed every Jew. They would not have spared a single Jewish man, woman or a child.

    You can be sure that once Palestinians stopped firing rockets into Israel, and sending suicide terrorists to kill innocent Israelis, there would not be a blockade.

    The biggest problem is that Muslims are basically intolerant people. There are only 6 million Jews in the Middle East and more than 300 million Arabs. Why don't Arabs let Jews live in peace in the Middle East?

    I have lived with Muslims. I was born in Pakistan. Let me tell you one thing. The life of a non-Muslim in a Muslim majority country is hell. There is not one Muslim country in the world where non-Muslims are treated as equal citizens. As a non-Muslim, you must be very careful what you say and how you behave with any Muslim in Muslim majority country. Believe me it is not easy. You are always made aware that you are second class citizen, it does not matter where you are what you do, in schools, in private business or in government offices.

    20% of Israeli population is Arab. Why can't Jews be allowed to live in Arab countries? Do you think that Palestinians will accept Jews in Palestine? Did any Palestinian leader say that Jews are welcome to live in Palestine as equal citizens? 

    वासुदैव कुटुम्बकम्
    Entire World is One Family
    سارا سنسار ايک پريوار ہے
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #327 - September 10, 2011, 01:49 AM

    If Arabs had won the 1967 war, Israel would not be existing today. Arabs would have killed every Jew. They would not have spared a single Jewish man, woman or a child.


    Elaborate.

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #328 - September 10, 2011, 07:13 PM

    Elaborate.

    Yes Mr. Ram Elaborate this  a bit on this
    "If Arabs had won the 1967 war Israel would not be existing today."

    are you sure about that?? But  I tell you this., all CEMB folks who voted against Israel in this thread will participate in war in SUPPORT of Israel .. Wink

    and I really doubt what you say here.
    Quote
    Arabs would have killed every Jew. They would not have spared a single Jewish man, woman or a child.

     but let me give you guys some past news and present news on that conflict. anyways first let us watch some old videos of that past on those  Oslo Agreements

    let us learn a bit on that   the Oslo 2 Agreement .. The last one from Arafat
    Quote
    This Agreement between representatives for the Palestinian people, and the state of Israel, signed September 24, 1995, in Washington, USA, by the chairman of PLO, Yassir Arafat, the Israeli prime minister, Yitzhak Rabin, and the president of USA, Bill Clinton.
    This agreement was a follow up of the Oslo Agreement from two years earlier, the first peace agreement between Israel and Palestine, and served as a continuation of the fragile peace process of the Middle East. While the Oslo Agreement had been defined without any acting, or even much knowledge, from the American side, the Oslo 2 Agreement was mainly the result of American and Egyptian. There was little Norwegian mediation in this process.

    The actual content of the Oslo 2, concerned the West Bank, and covered security issues, Palestinian elections, transfer of land, transfer of civil power from Israel to Palestine, trade conditions between the two countries and release of Palestinian prisoners from Israeli prisons.


    And let us listen to that Chairman.. Mr. Mohammed Yasser Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini on Oslo-2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NrZXp0_UNE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s93mivcda3Y

    That was my man Mr. Chairman in 1993 who ruled/represented  Palestinian people until his death., Then we have split rule in Palestinians.. Mr. Abbas juice loving jucey guy and heros from Hamas  whose sons leave Islam to join Christianity.


    In December 2010, we have another Palestinian organization.,    al-Quds al-Arabi . They pop like 12 kids to a Muslim woman in Burkh and that al-Quds  asserted that the Palestinian Authority no longer regards itself as being bound by the Oslo Accords  Those are the Islamic heroes that represent Palestinians people some of them truly suffer thanks to Islam and its current heroes.

    Now today's news says Egyptians attack Israeli Embassy in in Cairo



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE5AY7pkJ5c

    Other News says  Turk warships to escort any Gaza aid vessels: Erdogan

    and that is from Present Turkish President.. where does that will lead??

     Sure Juice will use Kurds and sure Kurds will make Curd out of turkey..



    Where does all that will lead? I am not sure., it could go either way. So that is how International Islam and its heroes/leaders  play  the game.   Hence I have NO OPTION but to support Israel all the way..

    read it all in those links  and watch tubes..  

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #329 - September 10, 2011, 07:42 PM

    Jewish IQ - over 105
    Arab IQ - mid 80's

    go figure. The jews can play them all day long.

    Hamas set up by the israelis. As a counterweight to PLO and to divide the palestinian opposition. Hamas enabled the Israelis to portray the landgrab through the prism of Islam (good move for the 'juice').

    Luckily for them (juice) christian fundies in America see the existence of israel as fulfilling the prophecies of their version of the 'end of days', or so I am led to believe.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
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