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  • Re: Porn
     Reply #60 - May 27, 2012, 06:18 PM
    The hijab plays into the victim-blaming mentality.
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #61 - May 27, 2012, 06:19 PM
    It also plays into the madonna-whore mentality, which has implications for the way those of us who choose not to wear it are viewed. 
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #62 - May 27, 2012, 06:28 PM
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    Oh right. :/ Sorry, as a hijabi, this isn't exactly the way I think it comes across (at least not in my experience), but maybe other people feel differently. Smiley


    Sure, at face value: You think Islam requres you to wear this, so you do it.

    You have to think deeper, ask why does Islam require this, where did this rule come from exactly etc. Why must women 'guard their modesty' to the point just being a sack of potatoes...Invisible.


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  • Re: Porn
     Reply #63 - May 27, 2012, 06:35 PM
    Quote from: chepea on May 27, 2012, 05:27 PM
    I don't see how the hijab objectifies women though. :/ Its purpose is kind of the opposite. Tongue But I'm a hijabi, so I guess that's bias, LOL!


    I'm referring to the general attitude in men that comes as a result of adopting the notion of hijab. Here's a post I made elsewhere to tie in some personal experience to the issue:
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    On the issue of muslims making a huge deal about separating the sexes, I am of the opinion that this unnatural separation ends up backfiring and creating an unhealthy sexual obsession and an environment that promotes the objectifying of women. Around 7 years ago, when I was still in high school, my family moved to Saudi Arabia for a year with my dad, for his work. Having lived in Canada all my life, it came as a huge shock to me to see how little freedom the women had in that country. And I remember talking to some of my classmates in the all-guys school I went to, and after finding out I'm Canadian and that I've had classes in which guys and girls mix freely, they asked me how I can just sit in these classes and not "jerk off all the time".

  • Re: Porn
     Reply #64 - May 27, 2012, 06:46 PM
    Yeah, reminds me of some convos I've had with friends in Pakistan. And the fact is, even though I'm not some crazy sex perv like some Muslim guys I know, I'd have to say that growing up in a heavily Islamic influenced environment has definitely had a negative impact on my ability to comfortably associate and interact with females.

    The mindset mentioned certainly is not conducive to creating healthy attitudes about gender relations.
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  • Re: Porn
     Reply #65 - May 27, 2012, 06:51 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on May 27, 2012, 06:19 PM
    It also plays into the madonna-whore mentality

    How so?
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #66 - May 27, 2012, 06:53 PM
    Quote from: toor on May 27, 2012, 10:27 AM
    Well, I'm disappointed. 46 posts in and nobody's posted one decent pornsite.

    fapdu.com

    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on May 27, 2012, 06:51 PM
    How so?


    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Porn
     Reply #67 - May 27, 2012, 07:06 PM
    Oh, if it's about the dichotomy of 'saints/sluts' then yeah... thought it was a point about how the madonna-whore complex manifests in relationships...
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #68 - May 27, 2012, 07:09 PM
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    Oh, if it's about the dichotomy of 'saints/sluts' then yeah.


    Yep.   Afro
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  • Re: Porn
     Reply #69 - May 27, 2012, 07:20 PM
    I have nothing against porn other than that when kids watch it, it leads to them having unrealistic expectations of themselves and others, sexually. For example a 14 year old boy watching a porn star roughly man handle a woman and force her to 'go down on him', whilst perhaps calling her derogatory names, will believe that there is nothing wrong with treating woman/girls like this. The fact that more often than not there is nothing to counteract/correct this only worsens the situation, as not all parents are willing to have the birds/bees talk and not all schools give the right sort of sex education.

    Could also lead to low self esteem in youths, because after watching some guy 'last' half an hour, it will probably make them feel really bad about their own sexual performance. Just sayin'.
    "The more powerful and original a mind, the more it will incline toward the religion of solitude."


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  • Re: Porn
     Reply #70 - May 27, 2012, 07:22 PM
    Good points, Rendezvous.  However, I think even people who agree with porn being available would say that 14 yr olds shouldn't be watching it in the first place.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #71 - May 27, 2012, 07:25 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on May 27, 2012, 07:22 PM
    Good points, Rendezvous.  However, I think even people who agree with porn being available would say that 14 yr olds shouldn't be watching it in the first place.


    Well yeah, they certainly shouldn't but the truth is that they do. In fact some start younger.
    "The more powerful and original a mind, the more it will incline toward the religion of solitude."


    "i used to steal my sisters barbies so i could take their clothes off and perv on them" - prince spinoza
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #72 - May 27, 2012, 07:34 PM
    Quote from: GodIsNotGreat on May 27, 2012, 06:53 PM
    fapdu.com

    (Clicky for piccy!)


    But lollipops are made to be eaten Tongue
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #73 - May 27, 2012, 07:56 PM
    At first I was surprised Chepea that you started this thread. Then I thought of your age and your curious mind. There are a lot of things in this world that perhaps we should label "as bad for for me personally" opposed to the blanket statement of it is "bad". This of is because people have the right to make choices. If the people involved in prop are insolved by choice. So be it.

    There is nothing wrong with modesty. You said you had no idea why you thought prone was wrong However I am sure that you have been taught that sex is something that happens in private. Also perhaps the idea that nakedness is not for public display is not new to you. So you have learned a standard that  certain things are wrong. If you want to adhere to that standard as an adult is your choice. How you see others for their choice says a lot about your inner person.

    I personally have never visited a porn site and have no reason to ever do so. I am not However naive about what is out there. I was a molested child, my innocence gone at a very young age. That is saying the very least...

    There are some hard things in this world don't be in a hurry to find out about them.





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  • Re: Porn
     Reply #74 - May 27, 2012, 08:08 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 27, 2012, 01:24 AM
    It should be educational for all concerned. This thread, that is, not porn as such. grin12

      yes ok!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl-JBZmPDkc&list=PL039F744FE6323BA0&index=55&feature=plpp_video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #75 - May 27, 2012, 09:56 PM
    Quote from: Aurora on May 27, 2012, 07:34 PM
    But lollipops are made to be eaten Tongue


    So are women </harakaat>
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #76 - May 27, 2012, 10:07 PM
    Grin He would have loved that.
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  • Re: Porn
     Reply #77 - May 27, 2012, 11:25 PM
    Quote from: Rendezvous on May 27, 2012, 07:20 PM
    I have nothing against porn other than that when kids watch it, it leads to them having unrealistic expectations of themselves and others, sexually. For example a 14 year old boy watching a porn star roughly man handle a woman and force her to 'go down on him', whilst perhaps calling her derogatory names, will believe that there is nothing wrong with treating woman/girls like this.

    Ok, but there is a stack of femdom porn out there too, for those who are interested.

    The problem with statements like "porn is bad" is that it doesn't say which porn is bad, and why, and under which circumstances. I agree that some of it doesn't make the world a better place.

    Porn can actually be a force for good under some circumstances. Did you know that if you hit a Ku Klux Klan forum and post pix of black shemale doms with white boy subs, they go totally apeshit? True story. Smiley
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #78 - May 27, 2012, 11:27 PM
     Cheesy Cheesy os you so rock...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #79 - May 27, 2012, 11:28 PM
    grin12 Another fun fact: if you register on Aryan Nation and tell them you're Jewish, they get grumpy too. No idea why.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #80 - May 27, 2012, 11:31 PM
    Oh, that was hilarious.  First time I ever saw someone try and gloat about the Holocaust and deny it ever happened, all in the one sentence.  Cheesy
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #81 - May 27, 2012, 11:32 PM
     Angry you guys are having way to much fun on other forums  Angry
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #82 - May 27, 2012, 11:35 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 27, 2012, 11:25 PM
    Ok, but there is a stack of femdom porn out there too, for those who are interested.

    The problem with statements like "porn is bad" is that it doesn't say which porn is bad, and why, and under which circumstances. I agree that some of it doesn't make the world a better place.

    Porn can actually be a force for good under some circumstances. Did you know that if you hit a Ku Klux Klan forum and post pix of black shemale doms with white boy subs, they go totally apeshit? True story. Smiley


    Yes its a classic case of black and white thinking .. nothing is inherently good or bad. Also ... did you really do that? Oz I officially crown you the best troll in internet history.
    "The more powerful and original a mind, the more it will incline toward the religion of solitude."


    "i used to steal my sisters barbies so i could take their clothes off and perv on them" - prince spinoza
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #83 - May 27, 2012, 11:49 PM
    Well, I didn't actually post the pix. What happened was that several years ago, a few of us from here and a few of the crew from the now-defunct Caged Rage forum decided a bit of a picnic was in order.

    The consensus was that we should do some neo-Nazi/white power site. They deserve it. Tongue I figured we needed some good ammunition, and that black shemale doms with white boy subs would press all their buttons rather well. So, I went off looking for suitable stuff. This is not my usual preference, but it's quite amazing what is online if you look around. I still have the pix stashed in a handy folder labelled "Annoying Nazis" just in case they're ever needed again.

    We scouted around Aryan Nation since I knew they used to be prime troll fodder, but they have been hit so many times that they've gone ultra paranoid and really tightened things up, so we couldn't get much traction there. However, while scouting I did think it would be fun to play on their fantasies about Jews drinking the blood of Christian children, so I registered as Yehudi Vampire and told them I was Jewish. They weren't happy.

    Then we looked at Stormfront, but they have gone ultra tight too. After a bit more searching we found a good ol' boys WP forum that was affiliated with Stormfront but was still backwoods enough to have no idea what was about to hit them. Everyone had access to the pix, so a time was set for the attack based on when we thought the least number of staff would be around. Not hard in this case, since all the staff appeared to be in the same, or nearly the same, time zone.

    I piked out. Yeah I know. Slack, but I had other things to do and didn't wait around. Some of the others went ahead. Cheetah was one of them. Ask her about it. I only saw the aftermath, but judging by that the effect was as planned.
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  • Re: Porn
     Reply #84 - May 27, 2012, 11:51 PM
    Cheesy Cheesy Lmao Cheesy Cheesy
    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

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  • Re: Porn
     Reply #85 - May 28, 2012, 01:39 AM
    Quote from: Stardust on May 27, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Sure, at face value: You think Islam requres you to wear this, so you do it.

    You have to think deeper, ask why does Islam require this, where did this rule come from exactly etc. Why must women 'guard their modesty' to the point just being a sack of potatoes...Invisible.


    Women aren't invisible.

    And I know why people wear hijab. But of course appearances are an important part of human interaction. I mean, except like online or something...
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #86 - May 28, 2012, 01:41 AM
    Quote from: GodIsNotGreat on May 27, 2012, 06:53 PM
    fapdu.com

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    My brother thought this was the dumbest thing in the world when he first saw it. he hates those analogies that compare women to diamonds or candy (LOL). Tongue

    So yeah, this is kinda stupid and just trying to instill within hijabs some sort of self-confidence.
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #87 - May 28, 2012, 01:44 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on May 27, 2012, 06:19 PM
    It also plays into the madonna-whore mentality, which has implications for the way those of us who choose not to wear it are viewed.  

    That's true, bugs me how Muslims might end up viewing people as immodest (if not wearing a headscarf) or modest (if wearing a headscarf). Even though there's a spectrum of clothing choices in between, and of course behaviour to take into account.
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #88 - May 28, 2012, 01:50 AM
    Hi Lynna, thanks for your response. Smiley

    Quote from: Lynna on May 27, 2012, 07:56 PM
    At first I was surprised Chepea that you started this thread. Then I thought of your age and your curious mind. There are a lot of things in this world that perhaps we should label "as bad for for me personally" opposed to the blanket statement of it is "bad". This of is because people have the right to make choices. If the people involved in prop are insolved by choice. So be it.

    Well, yeah, but then certain things are societal evils (my Islamic mindset kicking in again grin12).

    Quote
    There is nothing wrong with modesty. You said you had no idea why you thought porn was wrong However I am sure that you have been taught that sex is something that happens in private. Also perhaps the idea that nakedness is not for public display is not new to you. So you have learned a standard that  certain things are wrong. If you want to adhere to that standard as an adult is your choice. How you see others for their choice says a lot about your inner person.


    Yes, I meant that I did not have any basis for continuing to use that standard. But now that I think about it, why should I use any other standard?


    Quote
    I personally have never visited a porn site and have no reason to ever do so. I am not However naive about what is out there. I was a molested child, my innocence gone at a very young age. That is saying the very least...

    Sorry to hear that. :/ That's awful.

    Quote
    There are some hard things in this world don't be in a hurry to find out about them.

    I wasn't, it's just CEMB. Grin
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: Porn
     Reply #89 - May 28, 2012, 01:57 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 27, 2012, 11:49 PM
    I still have the pix stashed in a handy folder labelled "Annoying Nazis"

    That's your excuse, and you're sticking to it.
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