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  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #60 - October 09, 2013, 12:52 AM

    Thanks for the input everyone. I have nothing to contribute but this thread is providing me a view to my questions regarding women and Islam.


    You're welcome. Questions are good.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #61 - October 09, 2013, 10:53 PM

    I think confrontation could be a good teacher, it also grabs the attention.


    Hmm. Yeah? Anything in mind?

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #62 - October 09, 2013, 11:09 PM

    I'd like to read it, please. I hope it's not in Pashto. My Pashto is deplorable.


    3

    It is in English. There is a Bollywood 'hit' in it, I wrote it (in English), really cheesy but luckily when it comes to my poetry/songwriting 3


    Bollywood would fit the part. It is sung at an opportune moment so goes with the plot. There is only one song.

    Remember when I said it does not matter if you read it or not, well I must have been lying lol because in actuality it would be a very decent thing for you to do, take out time. Now I did say the first 5-10 pages should be read before making the decision to continue, but there is a caveat.

    Up to now, whoever has read it, black, brown and white do not like my 'prologue' which is the first four pages (four minutes), so I suggest page 5, which is the minute I have a flashforward as the start of the movie proper (yes, I was doing them years ago, the flashforward is a point that appears at minute 60 odd. It is one hundred and twenty pages long. Take your time. Lol (you can still not read it if you don't like it, if so, give the end a try.

    You say Pashto, means that you have knowledge of the sub-continent. As you like confrontation, here is your chance to nudge a few ideas my way, say a strong female character. Or was the 'I hope it is not in pashto' a dig at my comprehensibility? I assure it is in perfect English and you are European mix so you should have no problem whatsoever.

    You are 3 my lucky number is 7* together we can make the perfect ten. Halal chat up line? Nah, just inspired.

    *actually 9 is my favourite number but would not have worked above. Though 9 is 3cubed.


    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #63 - October 09, 2013, 11:46 PM

    3

    It is in English. There is a Bollywood 'hit' in it, I wrote it (in English), really cheesy but luckily when it comes to my poetry/songwriting 3


    Bollywood would fit the part. It is sung at an opportune moment so goes with the plot. There is only one song.

    Remember when I said it does not matter if you read it or not, well I must have been lying lol because in actuality it would be a very decent thing for you to do, take out time. Now I did say the first 5-10 pages should be read before making the decision to continue, but there is a caveat.

    Up to now, whoever has read it, black, brown and white do not like my 'prologue' which is the first four pages (four minutes), so I suggest page 5, which is the minute I have a flashforward as the start of the movie proper (yes, I was doing them years ago, the flashforward is a point that appears at minute 60 odd. It is one hundred and twenty pages long. Take your time. Lol (you can still not read it if you don't like it, if so, give the end a try.

    You say Pashto, means that you have knowledge of the sub-continent. As you like confrontation, here is your chance to nudge a few ideas my way, say a strong female character. Or was the 'I hope it is not in pashto' a dig at my comprehensibility? I assure it is in perfect English and you are European mix so you should have no problem whatsoever.

    You are 3 my lucky number is 7* together we can make the perfect ten. Halal chat up line? Nah, just inspired.

    *actually 9 is my favourite number but would not have worked above. Though 9 is 3cubed.




    I knew this girl. I think she was from Punjab Pakistan. She was a Khan, which mattered more to her mother than it did to her. But what was astounding about her was that she was beautiful, and she could hide it. If you went to a Pakistani gathering, she was wearing tight and shiny salwar kameez, with black lace. The sort of thing you see on underclothes, only it was a leebas. She would sit, with her back to the room. In tasteful makeup, that no matter how slight it was, looked like too much, because she was beautiful. She never spoke to boys. She never ate spicy food. Her mother cooked separate for her, for her complexion, and she did not complain. She was a very good girl.
    If you saw her at university, she was dressed in the baggiest hip hop style ever. Yards and yards of hair braided and kept under a button down shirt. Like an inner city street kid. She looked like a boy, being small, and dressed as she was, often with a hat. She looked rebellious, and she was actually obedient.
    It was amazing. When I think about living in two cultures, I think about her. She did not fuse. She looked like two people.
    If you threw that on screen and put up some confrontation, it would be amazing. I did see that a few times on Arab Spring or in footage from Palestine.

    Anyway, I want to see your script. Where is it?
    Why do you think I am digging at you? Maybe I am making fun of myself.
    Q) What is someone who speaks three languages?
    Tri-lingual
    Q)What do you call someone who speaks two languages?
    Bi-lingual.
    Q)What do you call someone who speaks one language?



    wait for it.....




    American.


    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #64 - October 10, 2013, 12:00 AM

    How do I get my script to you? Can you attach attachments on PM's (excuse my ignorance in matters technical/computerical lol) Are you saying share it on here? No, you have a butcher's first.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #65 - October 10, 2013, 12:01 AM

    Nearly everyone is bilingual at least, most speak their mother tongue and bullshit.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #66 - October 10, 2013, 12:03 AM

    How do I get my script to you? Can you attach attachments on PM's (excuse my ignorance in matters technical/computerical lol) Are you saying share it on here? No, you have a butcher's first.



    That is hilarious. I had never heard of butcher's first. I don't know how PM's work. I am too old for new tech. How much can a PM hold? Could you chapter it?

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #67 - October 10, 2013, 12:06 AM

    Nearly everyone is bilingual at least, most speak their mother tongue and bullshit.


     Cheesy So true.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #68 - October 10, 2013, 12:08 AM

    Also the girl, the Khan. I would have been the male equaivalent of sorts, not that I am beautiful.

    When I used to date my 'model' girlfriend, I moved her from her town in the sticks to my town. First accommodation was with two English (for all intent and purpose) friends/acquaintances - guys who were men about town. they lived ten minutes walk from my family home. By the age of 24 the ease with which I could be a parents wet dream (at that time), all cultural ready, speaking Punjabi, showing respect to their callers, knowing how to read namaz, and then with a ten minute walk become English with the acquaintances and girlfriend.

    I know it would triply hard for a woman. She would need strong character if born in my community.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #69 - October 10, 2013, 12:11 AM

    never heard of butcher's first.

    Butchers hook is Cockney rhyming slang for look.

    Syrup of figs = wig

    Apples and pears = stairs

    Grumble and grunt = ... ahem
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #70 - October 10, 2013, 12:12 AM

    That is hilarious. I had never heard of butcher's first. I don't know how PM's work. I am too old for new tech. How much can a PM hold? Could you chapter it?


    A butcher's means a look, cockney rhyming slang butcher's hook - look. have a butcher's first meant have a look first, then I might share on here. I think if you are comfortable with giving me email (a unused one say, just in case you think I am a stalker lol) address, via PM? Someone more knowledgeable could let us know, any other less intrusive method??

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #71 - October 10, 2013, 12:23 AM

    Also the girl, the Khan. I would have been the male equaivalent of sorts, not that I am beautiful.

    When I used to date my 'model' girlfriend, I moved her from her town in the sticks to my town. First accommodation was with two English (for all intent and purpose) friends/acquaintances - guys who were men about town. they lived ten minutes walk from my family home. By the age of 24 the ease with which I could be a parents wet dream (at that time), all cultural ready, speaking Punjabi, showing respect to their callers, knowing how to read namaz, and then with a ten minute walk become English with the acquaintances and girlfriend.

    I know it would triply hard for a woman. She would need strong character if born in my community.


    I think what impressed me the most was how she used American clothing to discourage attention while blending in. She picked a look with a tough (Don't talk to me) reputation for a girl, and pulled it off. I have seen Muslim girls do this before, but by dressing in tents. I have seen plenty of girls dress fashionably, but Sunnah, almost blending, but not like this.
    Let me get all these kids to bed, and I will get you an email.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #72 - October 10, 2013, 12:34 AM

    All these kids to bed?? How many?

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #73 - October 10, 2013, 12:40 AM

    I have a great aunt, grandma's sister. Never met her. According to my uncle she had 20.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #74 - October 10, 2013, 01:52 AM

    I think what impressed me the most was how she used American clothing to discourage attention while blending in. She picked a look with a tough (Don't talk to me) reputation for a girl, and pulled it off. I have seen Muslim girls do this before, but by dressing in tents. I have seen plenty of girls dress fashionably, but Sunnah, almost blending, but not like this.
    Let me get all these kids to bed, and I will get you an email.



    I can't tell you why/how, but I meet/see Asian girls/women of nearly all stripes, in a commercial context. From the plain-faced ninja to the sexy hijabi (hump, tight pyjama, with flowing dress covering the bum, make-up)to the oxford student in jeans a t-shirt, a jacket thrown on top, each comfortable in their household. It is possible to dress tomboy and maintain the 'look'.

    But change is going to be hard. Asian women buy three pieces per outfit   i.e salwar, kameez and dupatta/head covering, now the standard is to match the dupatta in colour with the salwar, today a lady suggested she was going to match the duppatta to the kameez (because the duppatta was not matching the salwar by a few degrees) this was met with sartorial shock and horror lol

    I said is it written anywhere that the dupatta has to match the salwar and not the kameez.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #75 - October 10, 2013, 01:55 AM

    Let me get all these kids to bed, and I will get you an email.


    3

    You had logged on, waited for the email address, now you off, hopefully it is nothing worse than a kid not going to sleep. Good night and good luck.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #76 - October 10, 2013, 02:10 AM

    3

    You had logged on, waited for the email address, now you off, hopefully it is nothing worse than a kid not going to sleep. Good night and good luck.


    Sorry. What happens is this:
    I log on, I read some, then a kid needs help with something. I log off, because no one wants to see what a toddler might accidentally post when I walk away from the computer.
    I log on, a kid feels sick and needs their temperature taken and some ibuprofen. I log off.
    I log on, while the food is baking and the kids are cleaning up. The food is done. I log off.
    I log on, the kids are in bed. Now two of them are out of bed and wrestling, asking me to referee. I log off.
    Ad nauseum, really.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #77 - October 10, 2013, 02:38 AM

    Bloody hell, I was such a handful as a child.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #78 - October 10, 2013, 02:54 AM

    I can't tell you why/how, but I meet/see Asian girls/women of nearly all stripes, in a commercial context. From the plain-faced ninja to the sexy hijabi (hump, tight pyjama, with flowing dress covering the bum, make-up)to the oxford student in jeans a t-shirt, a jacket thrown on top, each comfortable in their household. It is possible to dress tomboy and maintain the 'look'.

    But change is going to be hard. Asian women buy three pieces per outfit   i.e salwar, kameez and dupatta/head covering, now the standard is to match the dupatta in colour with the salwar, today a lady suggested she was going to match the duppatta to the kameez (because the duppatta was not matching the salwar by a few degrees) this was met with sartorial shock and horror lol

    I said is it written anywhere that the dupatta has to match the salwar and not the kameez.


    I know this is a board for all people, and freedom of speech is beloved here. But really, not matching the dupatta and the kameez? How easy it is to put a single band of color on each wrist, if need be. You have entered the realm of blasphemy. You would condemn a woman to a lifetime of ridicule?
    But seriously.

    We have lots of hijaabis here pushing the limits, too. But I don't think I have ever seen a niqaabi in this country without eye makeup. We don't have many, though.
    I have not been out much in recent years, though. This weekend is my first trip to the city in a year.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #79 - October 10, 2013, 02:57 AM

    Bloody hell, I was such a handful as a child.


    I bet you were. Thinking you can take chocolate into your mother's house and still retain rights to it.
    It's forfeit when scented. End of story.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #80 - October 10, 2013, 03:08 AM

    Reminds me of the battle of '92. The oceans did boil, the city streets ran red with blood, and the stars themselves did hide in fear from the might of our fury.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Re: ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #81 - October 10, 2013, 03:12 AM

    Butchers hook is Cockney rhyming slang for look.

    Syrup of figs = wig

    Apples and pears = stairs

    Grumble and grunt = ... ahem


    Cockney rhyming slang is retarded.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #82 - October 10, 2013, 03:14 AM

    Reminds me of the battle of '92. The oceans did boil, the city streets ran red with blood, and the stars themselves did hide in fear from the might of our fury.


    Now you have lost me. Is this about chocolate?

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #83 - October 10, 2013, 03:15 AM

    Cockney rhyming slang is retarded.


    I have never heard "ahem" in real life. But I didn't want to admit it.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #84 - October 10, 2013, 03:21 AM

    Cockney rhyming slang: strawberry tart = heart.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #85 - October 10, 2013, 03:24 AM

    Now you have lost me. Is this about chocolate?


    Yup.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #86 - October 10, 2013, 03:27 AM

    Cockney rhyming slang: strawberry tart = heart.


    Making things more complicated than they need to be. Slang is meant to simplify things.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #87 - October 10, 2013, 03:29 AM

    Unless you are trying to speak in code to deceive your occupiers/oppressors/landowners. Then slang serves to keep the listeners in the dark.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #88 - October 10, 2013, 03:32 AM

    Cockney slang was created in prisons so that the guards and authorities wouldn't have a clue what they were on about. It was a way to speak freely and spread once they got out of prison.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • ex-Muslim woman on what it is like to be a Muslim woman
     Reply #89 - October 10, 2013, 03:33 AM

    Cockney rhyming slang is retarded.

    It's retarded code poetry, always innovating, the better to keep the uninitiated off balance.

    Trouble and strife = wife.

    You've got to love it, especially as it is often shortened so as not actually to rhyme. Thus a wig is simply a syrup.
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