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  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #90 - September 08, 2014, 06:45 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 06:30 AM
    Everyone has their biases.

    There is a story about a sinking ship, and a man is drowning. He pleads "God, save me".
    As he is pleading, a lifeboat goes by. The man expecting God to save him, lets it go by.
    This happens two more time, and the man drowns waiting for God to save him.
    The drown man is before God in heaven and asks God why He did not save the man.
    God says" I sent three boats to save you".

    You choose to believe what you believe. All I am supposed to do is inform of an alternative.
    Don't miss the boat.



    Not to seem like an ass but,
    Quote from: xtremestr on September 08, 2014, 04:57 AM
    Wait, what? The confirmed theory of evolution, the biological basis of homosexuality, the impossibility of Noah's arc, etc. The bible, and all other religious scriptures have so many things wrong, with only so few things right.

    I do hope that you bring forth any evidence to support your claims, and perhaps less random quotations and out-of-context posts.


    I do hope you're actually here to interact with other people, and not just to preach your faith.
    أشهد أن لا إله
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #91 - September 08, 2014, 07:09 AM
    Me, personally, I grabbed the second lifeboat.
    The commission set forth for Christians to spread; God loves us.
    Covenant with man=Jesus.
    Believe in Jesus.
    Go to heaven.
    Simple, really. dance
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #92 - September 08, 2014, 07:12 AM
    Yes, I've been playing well with others. Had you nodded off in the last page and 1/2? You can go back and read them.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #93 - September 08, 2014, 07:17 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 07:09 AM
    Me, personally, I grabbed the second lifeboat. 
    The commission set forth for Christians to spread; God loves us.
    Covenant with man=Jesus.
    Believe in Jesus.
    Go to heaven.
    Simple, really. dance

    oh! your goal in life is going to heaven., well that is not my goal carpentaro., but what do you want to do in heaven? what is there in heaven??

    so dd you watch Dan Dennett?  watch it..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #94 - September 08, 2014, 07:20 AM
    In the presence of God.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #95 - September 08, 2014, 07:24 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 07:20 AM
    In the presence of God.

    So you can only go to god place after dying?  and why is this presence  of god is needed for you. ?

     you know god is my friend,, I walk and talk all the time with god..

      well let me watch this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i3mX0YRrjM
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #96 - September 08, 2014, 07:30 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 07:12 AM
    Yes, I've been playing well with others. Had you nodded off in the last page and 1/2? You can go back and read them.


    I do hope you don't mean this
    Quote
    There have been exhaustive studies of Biblical accuracy; historically, prophetically, and scientifically. I find that the weight of evidence for its' accuracy tends to agree with its' authenticity.
    Perhaps Christians are wanting to reassure themselves that they've not been duped. 


    I have read all your posts and none of them seems to even hint at answering my questions.

    Honestly, if you're going to continue like this you might as well ask the mods to change your name to "Christian_yay"
    أشهد أن لا إله
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #97 - September 08, 2014, 07:39 AM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhsCilfxY4M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtRinkNUNuI

    she would have been great President after Bush,,  AMRIKA would have been so happy.....with buttons in her hand..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #98 - September 08, 2014, 08:39 AM
    Quote from: xtremestr on September 08, 2014, 07:30 AM
    I do hope you don't mean this
    I have read all your posts and none of them seems to even hint at answering my questions.

    Honestly, if you're going to continue like this you might as well ask the mods to change your name to "Christian_yay"

    There seems to be a commonality of experience, bad experience interacting with religion leads to a rejection of all religions. This does not necessarily need to be the case. There is hope.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #99 - September 08, 2014, 08:56 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 08:39 AM
    There seems to be a commonality of experience, bad experience interacting with religion leads to a rejection of all religions. This does not necessarily need to be the case. There is hope.


    See, that's my problem with you. It feels like a clergyman gave you a list of preaches to say to atheists and you're just going down the list.
    أشهد أن لا إله
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #100 - September 08, 2014, 09:05 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 08:39 AM
    There seems to be a commonality of experience, bad experience interacting with religion leads to a rejection of all religions. This does not necessarily need to be the case. There is hope.

     
    Quote
    Quote from: xtremestr on September 08, 2014, 08:56 AM
    See, that's my problem with you. It feels like a clergyman gave you a list of preaches to say to atheists and you're just going down the list.


      well carpentaro  seems to be living in a religious la la land of praying, peace singing jingle bell songs.  

    He seem not to understand politics and political nature of religious movements and their history...  but that is all right...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpTmpU7KBRY
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #101 - September 08, 2014, 09:15 AM
    There is a reason that common experience produces common results. You are trying to prove your point by disproving mine. If you choose to believe in nothing, good on ya. Try and argue in the affirmative. . Where does man's morality come from? Explain the origin of matter.

    If you do not want to discuss man's spiritual nature...
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #102 - September 08, 2014, 09:23 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 09:15 AM
    There is a reason that common experience produces common results. You are trying to prove your point by disproving mine. If you choose to believe in nothing, good on ya.

    Who said I believe in nothing carpentaro?   I believe in freedom of expression, I believe in education, I believe in evolution of Human intelligence  And  I certainly don't believe in stories told some 2000 years ago by people whose life styles and their  problems are way different from what we have now in 21st century..
    Quote
    Try and argue in the affirmative. . Where does man's morality come from? Explain the origin of matter.

    If you do not want to discuss man's spiritual nature...

    what is spiritual nature? how do you define it in your neck of the world  carpentaro??

    Where did man's/woman's morality come from??  good question...

    The morality we have now  didn't come  from 2000 religions and books from them ..   well watch it...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgHoyTvyh4o
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #103 - September 08, 2014, 09:25 AM
    Cut and paste? Oh, please.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #104 - September 08, 2014, 09:29 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 09:25 AM
    Cut and paste? Oh, please.


    well yes..  what else you need carpentaro? is that not what you are doing from your religious background?  and  and that too some 2000 year old stuff..

    please continue to read..  hmm this is good to watch..  we came long way.. long long way carpentaro.. at least 4.5 billion years starting from first biological organism .  Some times truth is bitter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLmfO30hCLM
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #105 - September 08, 2014, 09:53 AM
    I was hoping for a bit more originality. Nothing new under the sun.

    I your own words, where did man's good nature come from? Do you believe in good and evil? I'd really like to know where matter comes from, education and "evolution of Human intelligence" surely must have an answer.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #106 - September 08, 2014, 10:05 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 09:53 AM
    I was hoping for a bit more originality. Nothing new under the sun.

    true nothing is original., biological  systems evolve  by the way BIBLE IS ALSO NOT ORIGINAL..

    Quote
    I your own words, where did man's good nature come from? Do you believe in good and evil? I'd really like to know where matter comes from, education and "evolution of Human intelligence" surely must have an answer.

    That is all good we will discuss it in time ., we know some stuff we have answers to some of your questions., other questions are explored as we speak and it is continuous process.,   but please realize  religions and religious books DON HAVE ANY ANSWER TO ANY QUESTION.. it is nothing more than meme in the brain ..belief.. blind belief..

    but one has to start some where to learn things.. .
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #107 - September 08, 2014, 10:06 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 08:39 AM
    There seems to be a commonality of experience, bad experience interacting with religion leads to a rejection of all religions.

    I had no bad experience with religion. I just never believed it.

    Really, your tone is smug, superior and not half as clever as you imagine.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #108 - September 08, 2014, 10:10 AM
    Ah, I had higher hopes for you, carpentaro, but now you're shaping up to be one of the forum's lazier apologists.

    Are you aware that we've all met many of you before? You're saying nothing new, and certainly nothing compelling. I know you think the words you speak are quite profound, but we recognize them as empty, with nothing to substantiate them at all, no reason to believe in Christianity any more than Islam. In fact, there are many reasons not to believe in either, but I can tell from what you've said already that science isn't really your forte, and that you wouldn't understand what you were looking at if I shoved all the evidence in the world onto your desk.

    Do you know that what you're saying is nearly indistinguishable from the unimaginative preaching that the stray Muslim here will try to deliver to us? I'd like to see what you all would have to say to each other. Since no one has any advantage over the other and you all use the same tricks and rhetoric, I'd imagine it would look like a cat batting at his reflection in the mirror.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #109 - September 08, 2014, 10:12 AM
    DON HAVE ANY ANSWER TO ANY QUESTION
    Don't have any answer to any question?
    Love God and love everyone else. That's an answer to a question you haven't thought to ask.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #110 - September 08, 2014, 10:23 AM
    Quote from: David on September 08, 2014, 10:06 AM
    I had no bad experience with religion. I just never believed it.

    Really, your tone is smug, superior and not half as clever as you imagine.

    Not at all, read the headings under avatars, you'd be the rarity to ex___.
    Clever was not my desired objective, that would imply amusement.
    So being half of something not striven for is twice what was expected. Thank you.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #111 - September 08, 2014, 10:23 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 10:12 AM
    DON HAVE ANY ANSWER TO ANY QUESTION
    Don't have any answer to any question?
    Love God and love everyone else. That's an answer to a question you haven't thought to ask.


    I try to love everyone else, but where does god come into all this?
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #112 - September 08, 2014, 10:38 AM
    Quote from: lua on September 08, 2014, 10:10 AM
    Ah, I had higher hopes for you, carpentaro, but now you're shaping up to be one of the forum's lazier apologists.

    Are you aware that we've all met many of you before? You're saying nothing new, and certainly nothing compelling. I know you think the words you speak are quite profound, but we recognize them as empty, with nothing to substantiate them at all, no reason to believe in Christianity any more than Islam. In fact, there are many reasons not to believe in either, but I can tell from what you've said already that science isn't really your forte, and that you wouldn't understand what you were looking at if I shoved all the evidence in the world onto your desk.

    Do you know that what you're saying is nearly indistinguishable from the unimaginative preaching that the stray Muslim here will try to deliver to us? I'd like to see what you all would have to say to each other. Since no one has any advantage over the other and you all use the same tricks and rhetoric, I'd imagine it would look like a cat batting at his reflection in the mirror.


     "I know you think the words you speak are quite profound"
    I was not going for profound. Sincere, authentic, heartfelt.
    Science and self do not fill the void.
    An individual relationship with God. Not an institutional application of a mandated belief system.
    I'd say that that is quite different to what a " stray Muslim" might say.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #113 - September 08, 2014, 10:41 AM
    And why does carpentaro ignore all my questions? Does Jesus not have a boat for me?  Cry
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #114 - September 08, 2014, 10:43 AM
    Build yer own boat. Tongue
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #115 - September 08, 2014, 10:44 AM
    Quote from: asbie on September 08, 2014, 10:23 AM
    I try to love everyone else, but where does god come into all this?


    Do you not wonder what your purpose for exiting is?
    Haphazard occurrence of events with a probability approaching impossible?
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #116 - September 08, 2014, 10:46 AM
    Quote from: asbie on September 08, 2014, 10:41 AM
    And why does carpentaro ignore all my questions? Does Jesus not have a boat for me?  Cry


    Absolutely, but you've got to believe Jesus exists to build it.
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #117 - September 08, 2014, 10:47 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on September 08, 2014, 10:43 AM
    Build yer own boat. Tongue


    You first.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #118 - September 08, 2014, 10:49 AM
    Been there, done that.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Why Allah is unlike any other deity
     Reply #119 - September 08, 2014, 10:49 AM
    Quote from: carpentaro on September 08, 2014, 10:44 AM
    Do you not wonder what your purpose for exiting is?
    Haphazard occurrence of events with a probability approaching impossible?


    Everyone wonders about the first. Even those with religion wonder if they're living their life in a way that's REALLY fulfilling their purpose. That kind of doubt is part of being human.

    Not sure what you're getting at with your second question.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
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