solroger says: I one the things that always gets me is how can a person like Hamza Yusuf get this wrong? If he converted to Islam and he is soooo smart then who am I to question all this?
Ishina responds :are smart Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Wiccans, Satanists. There are smart pantheists, polytheists, pagans, infidels, atheists, sceptics, scientists, scientologists.
What does being smart have to do with it?
I don't think he is smart guy dear solroger ., May be you are right if you consider
"Smart in the sense of fooling others" with mambo- jumbo stories without critically analyzing what is there in Quran and Is Quran word of Allah/God. I am not even certain that guy read Quran ., Whene it comes to analyzing and understand the script Quran, I would consider him as FOOL., Or
at the best blind believer and at worst a conman fooling people.
Any fellow who reads quran with open mind, it is impossible to believe in that All-powerful ..Absolute..supreme..super force... Allah/THE God that controls everything anything at any time any place in this UNIVERSE that says the following .
066.003: And when the prophet secretly communicated a piece of information to one of his wives-- but when she informed (others) of it, and Allah made him to know it, he made known part of it and avoided part; so when he informed her of it, she said: Who informed you of this? He said: The Knowing, the one Aware, informed me.
066.004: If you both turn to Allah, then indeed your hearts are already inclined (to this); and if you back up each other against him, ] then surely Allah it is Who is his Guardian, and Jibreel and -the believers that do good, and the angels after that are the aiders.
066.005: Maybe, his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters, widows and virgins.
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
066.001 : O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
066.005 : It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you,- who submit (their wills) who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- previously married or virgins.
Period of Revelation
In connection with the incident of tahrim referred to in this Surah, the traditions of the Hadith mention two ladies who were among the wives of the Holy Prophet (upon whom be peace) at that time Hadrat Safiyyah and Hadrat Mariyah Qibtiyyah.The former (i. e. Hadrat Safiyyah) was taken to wife by the Holy Prophet after the conquest of Khaiber, and Khaiber was conquered, as has been unanimously reported, in A. H. 7. The other lady, Hadrat Mariyah, had been presented to the Holy Prophet by Muqawqis, the ruler of Egypt, in A. H. 7 and she had borne him his son, Ibrahim, in Dhil-Hijjah, A. H. 8.These historical events almost precisely determine that this Surah was sent down some time during A.H. 7 or A. H 8.
In surah Al-Ahzab, the holy wives have been addressed thus:"O Prophet, say to your wives If you seek the world and its adornments, come, I shall give you of these and send you off in a good way. But if you seek Allah and His Messenger and the abode of the Hereafter, you should rest assured that Allah has prepared a great reward for those of you, who do good." (vv. 28-29).
And dear solroger any one who believes in allah that says this Quran., he/she must be putting a black burkha on their brain and in between neural connections. Or they may be brain washed so thoroughly in believing blindly since their childhood
Ta Seen Meem. [Al Quran ; 28:1]
Ta Seen, [Al Quran ; 27:1]
[ Ta Seen Meem[/b [Al Quran ; 26:1]
Ta Ha. [Al Quran ; 20:1]
Kaf Ha Ya Ein Sad [Al Quran ; 19:1]
Alif Lam Ra. [Al Quran ; 15:1]
Alif Lam Ra. [Al Quran ; 14:1]
Alif, Lam, Mim, Ra [Al Quran ; 13:1]
Alif Lam Ra. [Al Quran ; 12:1]
Alif Lam Ra. [Al Quran ; 11:1]
Alif Lam Ra. [Al Quran ; 10:1]
Alif Lam Meem Sad. [Al Quran ; 7:1]
Alif Lam Meem Al Quran ; 3:1]
Alif Lam Meem. [Al Quran ; 2:1]
Yess.... indeed
These are the signs of the Book of wisdom in the book.,
It could as well be this dear solroger so let me write a surah here
Ohyee!.. False believers of Allah
Allah knows.. what is in your heart"
Allah knows..
"when a false believer is hurt,
then you start believing Allah"
And you say we are with you. "We are with Allah"[/background]
Allah know., You LIARS
"when help from your Lord comes, they will surely say:
"Indeed, we were with you"
but After time passes .
..you transgress Allah commands.. and.. you forget Allah
.. You Lairs.. Cheaters and Rascals "..
[/i]
]Ta Seen Meem
Kaf Ha Ya Ein Sad.
Alif Lam Ra ..
.Doom ....Dam... DoooomM
..KhaboomM....
Meem... dum..dum
..Ta Ha....
Alif Lam Mim
Faa' Qaaf. ]
well that sounds as good a revelation as you see in Allah book. But I can say this.,
at least such verses as above are not harmful to those who think Muhammad was a nut case and Quran is Gibberish dear solroger . Any ways I do have problem with
"Character Muhammad" that is preached across Islamic world to children and to non-Muslims.
In fact I have problem to consider the existence Muhammad that you see in Haditha nd even in Quran [/b][/u]., I think these books are bogus and were written way after the death of some character
(or Could be many characters) that may have lived in the 7th century...
It is all silly stories from the mouths of early Muslims/story tellers like Hamza Yusuf
with best wishes
yeezevee
Topic: Hamza Yusuf: Secularism, the Greatest Danger Facing Islam