Thanks for your post, osmanthus. :)I suggest we may socialize in different circles.
I think so.
Or perhaps it is a difference in our ages and child-learned social mores.
Perhaps.
Or the breadth of our vocabularies.
Ah. Veiled insults FTW. Thank you.
The inherent linguistic value of the word "bullsh*t" is..., well, "bullsh*t."
That is an opinion, not a fact. Like any other word in the language it has its uses.
I submit its use, particularly as used by one to deride (purposefully or no) something cherished by another, is unwarranted.
Again, an opinion, which you are perfectly entitled to and others are entitled not to share.
Philogistically it is an offensive word typically used (1) to be offensive, (2) to be shocking in the effusiveness of one's disregard.
Sometimes. Not always, but even when it is used in that manner it may sometimes be warranted.
I submit that there are numerous other words that can be chosen to denote disagreement that are neither vulgar nor carry connotations of disparagement.
Of course there are. I never claimed otherwise.
Well, I would suggest your explanation is bullsh....., ah... I mean is insufficient justification for the "casual" use of profanity among "friends."
Nice try, but no cigar. You see what you did here? You called my explanation bullshit and then tried to pretend that you hadn't really called my explanation bullshit. This makes you a/
a hypocrite perhaps somewhat less than entirely consistent when it comes to putting your professed position into practice and b/
dishonest seem to be not always painstakingly scrupulous in your attempts to ensure that your words are in strict accordance with objective truth.
See how it works? Nice, isn't it?
I also did not know that atheism and agnosticism are unique to creating a "casual atmosphere"...an
irreverent one, perhaps
but "casual" would be a misnomer. I submit, that the use of "vulgarity" (i.e. words coined to be offensive) is contrary to creating a "casual" (i.e. relaxed) atmosphere.
Depends from whose point of view. I was referring to a predominantly like-minded group talking casually among themselves, which does tend to happen here.
Following the example of soujournerlumus, I can share what my grandmother taught me: "
There is no excuse to be rude."
Your grandmother was entitled to her opinions. However given the subjectivity of "rudeness", which we're currently discussing by the way, and given that some people may feel that some points need to be made, then one could argue that at times there is a need to be rude.
Now, Hassan, whom I have known many years, I appreciate had no intention to be rude. And I took no offense. I did, however, feel obligated to share with him, as a friend, that others perceive us by our actions--and our words. And, if we think of others instead of just ourselves, we should give thought to our actions and speak in a way that creates good will and peace, and inspire others to the same.
I find it often comes down to whether one is an "I" person or a "We" person.
Respectfully,
History
Another veiled insult. You should wear a heavier veil. Your face is showing.
Topic: Respecting People's faith