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 Topic: Life is a Test!

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  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #90 - June 06, 2009, 09:21 PM
    And another quote from Thomas Jefferson: Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.

    If any god exists, he/she/it/they surely must not be the tyrannical monster of the religions of mankind. That means all our religions are ultimately false.
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #91 - June 06, 2009, 09:27 PM
    Quote from: allat on June 06, 2009, 09:18 PM
    So, you're willing to worship a monster?

    I agree that with or without god, the only thing that truly matters is for humans to try and do good. And I'd define good as anything that doesn't actually hurt another sentient being.

    However, by the same measure, the god most religious people believe in, is actually not very good at all. And I see no reason to worship a sadist.

    All that said, there is actually no evidence of "god" besides a few religious books and their lofty claims; texts which are themselves imperfect, man-made, and full of inconsistencies and cruelties.

    To quote Epicurus:

    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?



    man, you dont understand human, most believers in god really dont know that god exits or not but they believe he exits.

    you like it or not in future all humans will bow before Allah
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #92 - June 06, 2009, 09:30 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 06, 2009, 09:27 PM

    man, you dont understand human, most believers in god really dont know that god exits or not but they believe he exits.

    you like it or not in future all humans will bow before Allah


    It's not a matter of what I like or not. You've essentially admitted that Allah is a monster.

    It's sad that you will live your whole life as a slave to this monstrous idea you've accepted into your mind.

    Go ahead and continue to worship the genocidal monster of your imagination. It matters not to me. Smiley
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #93 - June 06, 2009, 09:32 PM
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    you like it or not in future all humans will bow before Allah


    No, they won't.  Like it or not, there will always be humans that have more courage than you, and they will never bow before a sadistic wanker like Allah.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #94 - June 06, 2009, 09:33 PM
    This video is very good Hassan!  Afro

    This & your video on Muhammad were my favorites, unfortunately that seemed to have poor sound quality, this one is very technologically good as well!  yes
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #95 - June 06, 2009, 09:42 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 06, 2009, 09:27 PM
    you like it or not in future all humans will bow before Allah


    Lets' see. If I manage to hit a century as I hope to & as some women in my family have, I'll be able to at least know what'll happen 86 years later.  Crystal Ball

    Farid is the youngest guy here-he's 17 & women mostly outlive men, but I guess he'll be a very old man 70 years later & I'll be an old woman. Old geezer You too will be very old, so we can met online, offline or through some new technology & then we'll discuss how many humans bow before Allah! Islamic % & numbers will continue to rise for sometime in the future due to birthrates & lack of secularization, then perhaps they'll fall to the same or below global avarages. Anyway, humans bowing before Allah will have to be not just sons & daughters of those who bow before Allah or foolish lovesick  001_wub women married to Muslim men who convert to Islam, but people who find Islam a satisfactory religion as well & convert out of conviction

    For you to win, the % of those bowing before Allah globally has to be at least 50% or above? I'll give you 500$ if you win, you give me that amount if I win.

    Done?  Smiley
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #96 - June 06, 2009, 09:46 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 06, 2009, 09:27 PM

    you like it or not in future all humans will bow before Allah


    And we created you, then fashioned you, then told the humans "Fall you prostrate before God". And they fell prostrate: All safe NineBerry, who is not of those that make prostration.

    bleed for me...kill for me...die for me
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #97 - June 06, 2009, 09:54 PM
    Quote from: allat on June 06, 2009, 09:30 PM
    It's not a matter of what I like or not. You've essentially admitted that Allah is a monster.

    It's sad that you will live your whole life as a slave to this monstrous idea you've accepted into your mind.

    Go ahead and continue to worship the genocidal monster of your imagination. It matters not to me. Smiley

    believing in god is good for human race even he is moster
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #98 - June 06, 2009, 10:01 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 06, 2009, 09:54 PM
    believing in god is good for human race even he is moster

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Afro
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  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #99 - June 06, 2009, 10:03 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on June 06, 2009, 09:32 PM
    No, they won't.  Like it or not, there will always be humans that have more courage than you, and they will never bow before a sadistic wanker like Allah.



    as long pain in this world god exits for mankind mind and god of islam will be number one choice

    even enemies of islam bow before Allah in GUANTANAMO


     
    GUANTANAMO GUARD CONVERTS TO ISLAM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IssI_fCAE_8
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #100 - June 06, 2009, 10:07 PM
    Quote from: Aziz on June 06, 2009, 10:01 PM
    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Afro



    why do you laughing?
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #101 - June 06, 2009, 10:08 PM
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    as long pain in this world god exits for mankind mind and god of islam will be number one choice


    This is gibberish.  What are you trying to say?  I understand that english is not your first language, and that you are not exactly the brightest spark in the barrel, but this is indecipherable gibberish, even by your standards.

    As for your You Tube. yes yes, an impressionable young soldier converted to Islam.  He probly converted for exactly the same reason that he joined the army in the first place, (need for authority, need for moral certainty), that doesn't make the US Army the true religion, and it doesn't make Islam the true religion either.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #102 - June 06, 2009, 10:12 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 06, 2009, 10:07 PM

    why do you laughing?


    Your command over the English language differs significantly in different posts-sometimes you're reasonably fluent, sometimes you barely manage to string four words together. Tongue
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #103 - June 06, 2009, 10:15 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on June 06, 2009, 10:08 PM
    This is gibberish.  What are you trying to say?  I understand that english is not your first language, and that you are not exactly the brightest spark in the barrel, but this is indecipherable gibberish, even by your standards.

    As for your You Tube. yes yes, an impressionable young soldier converted to Islam.  He probly converted for exactly the same reason that he joined the army in the first place, (need for authority, need for moral certainty), that doesn't make the US Army the true religion, and it doesn't make Islam the true religion either.

    islam does not have to be true for all humans to accept islam as guide for their life
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #104 - June 06, 2009, 10:16 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 06, 2009, 10:07 PM
    why do you laughing?

    Cause what you said was funny! You're a funny guy, and your monster of a god, too. Wink
    German ex-Muslim forum — My YouTube — List of Ex-Muslims —
    Wikis: en – de – fr – ar – tr
    CEMB-Chat
    I'm on an indefinite break...
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #105 - June 06, 2009, 10:17 PM
    Quote from: Aziz on June 06, 2009, 10:16 PM
    Cause what you said was funny! You're a funny guy, and your monster of a god, too. Wink



    what i said was funny?
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #106 - June 06, 2009, 10:18 PM
    Quote
    slam does not have to be true for all humans accept islam as guide for their life


    I never said it did.  I just pointed out that it isn't true, and that all humans won't ever accept it anyway.   Its too crap to be universally accepted, and to illogical to be true.

    *shrug*
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #107 - June 06, 2009, 10:19 PM
    Quote from: Rashna on June 06, 2009, 10:12 PM
    Your command over the English language differs significantly in different posts-sometimes you're reasonably fluent, sometimes you barely manage to string four words together. Tongue



    nothing funny about i am illetrate
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #108 - June 06, 2009, 10:28 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 06, 2009, 10:19 PM

    nothing funny about i am illetrate


    You aren't illiterate at all kope, its just that somehow your standard of English seems to fluctuate significantly, in some posts, you are pretty fluent, in others, not so much.
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #109 - June 07, 2009, 05:46 AM
    Kope,

    I just want to know

    1) if the mountains were offered free will, and refused it? Doesnt this contradict other parts of the quran?

    2) If man was unjust to himself by accepting free will, depite the fact they were ignorant, doesnt that make god unjust for offering it?

    3) How can you accept something, if you dont already have free will?

    4) What is free will? If something cant think and reason (because it has no brain), what good is free will?




    arguing about philosophy is pointless. You believe in Allah, and anything is going to be filtered though that belief, it gets us no where.
    I am not arguing about allah's character or something like that.... I only argue about if it is real.

    By the bar set by the quran, that is is the direct word for word dictated word of god and one mistake or contradiction makes it null, I want to know how you make sense of this verse (33:72)...... To me it seems like it is illogical, contradictory, and goofy.... How do you rationalize that?
    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #110 - June 07, 2009, 06:57 AM
    Quote from: RIBS on June 06, 2009, 08:00 PM
    I have a theory that we are created by God, but it is a baby God!

    Obviously, God's creation is not at all perfect. Think about it! Disease, Hunger, Pain, Disasters, Children suffering, and the creation flop of a hermaphrodites (Buck Angel!), I mean girls with penises and boys with breasts etc This could never be a creation of an Adult God....

    Actually, this will answer the oldest question: Who created God? Well, Mama and Papa God, and then Grandparents Gods all the way down! whistling2


    Ok maybe God is a ten years old!!! Roll Eyes
    ...
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #111 - June 07, 2009, 12:21 PM
    Quote from: Jack Torrance on June 04, 2009, 07:31 AM
    Hass, why do you keep referring back to this 'God' as portrayed in the books when you know he doesn't exist?


    I honestly don't know - maybe as James says I'm trying to reach Muslims and make them think - maybe I just need to get it out my system - maybe there is some other motive...

    I honestly don't know.

    All I know is I "feel" like making them.
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #112 - June 07, 2009, 12:28 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on June 07, 2009, 12:21 PM
    I honestly don't know - maybe as James says I'm trying to reach Muslims and make them think - maybe I just need to get it out my system - maybe there is some other motive...

    I honestly don't know.

    All I know is I "feel" like making them.


    you think that muslim dont think? think about it hasan  dance
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #113 - June 07, 2009, 12:51 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 07, 2009, 12:28 PM
    you think that muslim dont think? think about it hasan  dance


    Of course I know Muslims think and are no less and no more intelligent than any other group of human beings. I mean make them think about Islam from a different perspective.
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #114 - June 08, 2009, 07:17 PM
    Quote from: allat on June 06, 2009, 06:29 PM
    Then why did he set things up this way?


    Maybe when kope said God gains "nothing" out of it, he was trying to say that he did it for purely altruistic reasons, so that humans may gain. After all, kope did tell you about the human gain of evil in the world but you responded by saying you were more bothered about God's gain.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #115 - June 08, 2009, 07:21 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on June 06, 2009, 07:13 PM
    No, we do not have free will.  It is shocking to me that you can not see this, that you still think free will exists when we are only acting out a script.

    Actors do not have free will, they are stuck within the lines and the role they must play.  They can be potrayed as the bad guy, or the good guy, either way they are playing out a part.  They can not change the script (without permission of course) and suddenly play the good guy if their role was the bad guy.


    Well allah is the director, the script writer, the producer, the role caster, he is in control and he has given us a script to play out, one that was written into a book at 40 days of life in our mothers wombs.

    This is not free will, it is acting.


    We could still have free will. It's just that God knows us well. It's the same scenario when your in a shop with a friend and you just know what he is going to go for. But he didn't go for that thing because he was programmed to, he chose it out of his free choice.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #116 - June 08, 2009, 07:24 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 06, 2009, 07:52 PM
    how can you tell you are not deluted?


    She can't. That's why the best thing we can do is keep an open a mind as possible and embrace rationalism and ditch emotivism.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #117 - June 08, 2009, 07:27 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 06, 2009, 07:55 PM

    he does what he like


    If you ask somebody why they wrote what they did on an internet forum, and they say "I can do what I like!" they are not answering the question. Translated, what they actually mean is "I'm not going to tell you!"

    So when you are asked why God does so and so, and you reply "he does what he likes", then your not answering the question. Perhaps what your trying to say is that we don't have the right to question God's actions?
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #118 - June 08, 2009, 07:30 PM
    Quote from: kope on June 06, 2009, 09:11 PM

    if he exits how can i deny it?



    But saying God exists and saying he is worthy of worship are two separate issues. God isn't worthy of worship because he exists. He may be worthy of worship, but not for that reason.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Life is a Test!
     Reply #119 - June 08, 2009, 11:03 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on June 08, 2009, 07:27 PM
    If you ask somebody why they wrote what they did on an internet forum, and they say "I can do what I like!" they are not answering the question. Translated, what they actually mean is "I'm not going to tell you!"

    So when you are asked why God does so and so, and you reply "he does what he likes", then your not answering the question. Perhaps what your trying to say is that we don't have the right to question God's actions?


    why did god created millions of diffirent creature ?

    because god does what he like
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
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