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Reply #120 - October 03, 2010, 01:41 PM

Quote from: DH on October 03, 2010, 01:36 PM
But how do we distinguish the propagators of falsehoods in ignorance from the Taqiyya merchants who undoubtedly exist?

People lie. Its not a global Muslim conspiracy. Its just shit people do. Get over it.

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Reply #121 - October 03, 2010, 01:46 PM

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People lie. Its just shit people do. Its not a global Muslim conspiracy. Get over it.

I am guessing you live in a non-Muslim country the overwhelmingly non-Muslim nature of which has made it possible for you to openly leave Islam at immensely less risk to your personal safety than if you lived in a Muslim majority country like Indonesia, Iraq or Egypt. You are open about your apostasy I take it?

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Reply #122 - October 03, 2010, 01:52 PM

Correct

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Reply #123 - October 03, 2010, 02:32 PM

So many cudgels taken up for so little a provocation. I like DH. True enough, the fellow is a monomaniac with nary a thought for anything else, but on a site devoted to training one's artillery on Allah's gang, hardly out of place. To be sure the rascal could use a dash of humour - how do people survive without it? - but at bottom nothing's wrong with him.
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Reply #124 - October 03, 2010, 02:41 PM

It has always made me wonder how celebrities seem to get so involved in Scientology... Why? I read up on Wiki, lots of them left Roman Catholicism etc and converted to Scientology... and worse still, how some of those celebrities in the video actually got annoyed when asked about their beliefs, lmao.

I must admit, Scientology is messed up. I tried to understand it before I bashed it, but it just makes no sense. Weird beliefs that you... pay-as-you-go to unlock? It seems like a business. Just work your way up the Scientology ladder and you'd probably be rolling in the money at the expense of blackmailing and taxing people to subscribe to your sci-fi beliefs. Lmao.

List of famous celebrity Scientologists: John Travolta, Juliette Lewis, Kirstie Alley, Catherine Bell, Nancy Cartwright, Beck, Jason Lee, Edgar Winter, Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes, Anne Archer, Lisa Marie Presley, and opera singer Julia Migenes
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Reply #125 - October 03, 2010, 02:43 PM

Quote from: DH on October 03, 2010, 01:46 PM
I am guessing you live in a non-Muslim country the overwhelmingly non-Muslim nature of which has made it possible for you to openly leave Islam at immensely less risk to your personal safety than if you lived in a Muslim majority country like Indonesia, Iraq or Egypt. You are open about your apostasy I take it?

yes in egypt u can be open about it if ur family is good with it .
but not officially open about it.

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Reply #126 - October 03, 2010, 02:54 PM

Quote from: Mount A Bison on October 03, 2010, 02:32 PM
So many cudgels taken up for so little a provocation. I like DH. True enough, the fellow is a monomaniac with nary a thought for anything else, but on a site devoted to training one's artillery on Allah's gang, hardly out of place. To be sure the rascal could use a dash of humour - how do people survive without it? - but at bottom nothing's wrong with him.

That's cute, but it seems like DH's guns are arrayed against the Ex-Muslims here. He's like the Witchfinder General, but with his paranoid sights set on the al-Muhajiroon he's convinced we are sheltering in our basement.

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Reply #127 - October 03, 2010, 02:58 PM

Hey DH, got the perfect avatar for you:

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Reply #128 - October 03, 2010, 03:21 PM

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Reply #129 - October 03, 2010, 03:24 PM

Quote from: DH on October 03, 2010, 01:46 PM
I am guessing you live in a non-Muslim country the overwhelmingly non-Muslim nature of which has made it possible for you to openly leave Islam at immensely less risk to your personal safety than if you lived in a Muslim majority country like Indonesia, Iraq or Egypt. You are open about your apostasy I take it?

Funny thing is that even in countries like the USA, its doubtful whether it would be wise for a presidential hopeful to openly claim to be an atheist.

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Reply #130 - October 03, 2010, 03:25 PM

Quote from: Mount A Bison on October 03, 2010, 03:21 PM
@Ishina

No rounds of shrapnel have been discharged at our shores and well you know it, so why the hectoring tone you little tease?

Bleh, don't make me trawl through his back catalogue and drag up some quotes. Lifes too short.

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Reply #131 - October 03, 2010, 03:50 PM

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Reply #132 - October 03, 2010, 04:18 PM

Hmm, it wasnt that hard actually. Just from the first few pages, we get this kind of shit:

Quote from: DH on September 27, 2010, 02:04 PM
It is called "applying a double standard" - a common practice of Muslims which some ostensibly EX-members of the faith do not seemed to have been able to discard.

Quote from: DH on September 27, 2010, 01:44 PM
And I am sure, Muslim, that your love for him is fully reciprocated. You have a particular soft spot for the followers of Muhammad don't you Q?

Quote from: DH on September 29, 2010, 05:07 AM
My accusation that you are applying an Islamesque double standard in saying that non-Muslim objectors to halal "should" do this or that whilst stipulating no "shoulds" for Muslims is open and clear.

Quote from: DH on October 01, 2010, 02:05 PM
Deliberately misrepresenting what your detractors have actually said: another Muslim tendency you need to work on expunging.

Quote from: DH on October 01, 2010, 01:27 PM
Trying to caricature your detractors as wacko conspiracy theorists is of course an Islamic habit you have not been able to entirely expunge from your modus operandi.

Quote from: DH on October 01, 2010, 01:27 PM
Interesting residual Muslim characteristic of accusing your detractors of what you are primarily guilty btw.

Quote from: DH on October 01, 2010, 01:27 PM
People like Hasan are in a state of denial. They do not want to acknowledge that those still-Muslims they hold so dear are part and parcel of the same overarching movement as the "Islamists". They are lying to themselves and seeking to get non-Muslims to buy into the lie.

Quote from: DH on October 01, 2010, 01:27 PM
Here again you are resorting to such standard Islamic "debating" tactics as accusing your detractors of mental problems rather than seeking to intelligently tackle the points they raise.

Quote from: DH on October 01, 2010, 01:27 PM
But there are clearly a considerable number of ostensible ex-Muslims here, like hasan, who still retain certain behavioral propensities from their days as fervent cult members - notably the tendency to "get personal" with people who express views they don't like but can't effectively counter through reasoned argument.

Quote from: DH on October 02, 2010, 09:41 AM
It is in fact the Cult of Non-Political (or moderate) Islam - which is held up here as the great hope against "political Islam". I argue against this view and hold that such a distinction between Islams is spurious...

I think I see a pattern emerging...

I can't be bothered to go back further than that.

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Reply #133 - October 03, 2010, 04:31 PM

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Reply #134 - October 03, 2010, 04:40 PM

Quote from: Mount A Bison on October 03, 2010, 03:21 PM
From what I can observe the guy's chief fault is that he is too much like the Nuke-Iran-Crowd of the Robert Spencer variety, too much like the crazed right-wingers at Faith Freedom. From such quacks and fools, Good Lord deliver us!

@MAB: I respect you for saying this, even though you have set your website as Faith Freedom on your YouTube channel.

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Reply #135 - October 03, 2010, 04:47 PM

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Reply #136 - October 03, 2010, 05:47 PM

Quote from: DH on October 03, 2010, 01:36 PM
But how do we distinguish the propagators of falsehoods in ignorance from the Taqiyya merchants who undoubtedly exist?

But how do we distinguish that your not a potential rapist because youve got a penis?

You keep mentioning Taqqiya. I am trying to get to the bottom of why we differ so greatly in our outlook, despite us both realising Islam is an awful ideology.

Id like to know what % of muslims would you guess have read the Quran (ignoring hadith where things like taqqiya are covered) in a language that they understand?

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Reply #137 - October 03, 2010, 05:59 PM

Quote from: Mount A Bison on October 03, 2010, 02:32 PM
To be sure the rascal could use a dash of humour

That's for sure MaB! Even if he could show a little humanity, understanding and sympathy towards Ex-Muslims it would help - seeing as he seems determined to take up residence amongst us.
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Reply #138 - October 03, 2010, 06:53 PM

Quote from: IsLame on October 03, 2010, 05:47 PM
But how do we distinguish that your not a potential rapist because youve got a penis?

lol so true ..
ha DH u must be an undercover rapist

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Reply #139 - October 03, 2010, 07:05 PM

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@MAB: I respect you for saying this, even though you have set your website as Faith Freedom on your YouTube channel.

Disgusting, you spend your time here & promote FFI - change it at once or I shall mount you like a bison in the mating season, armed with a rod as stiff as steel.

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Reply #140 - October 03, 2010, 08:37 PM

Or a pizzle , even.

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Reply #141 - October 03, 2010, 08:38 PM

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That's for sure MaB! Even if he could show a little humanity, understanding and sympathy towards Ex-Muslims it would help - seeing as he seems determined to take up residence amongst us.

Cuckoo - nest - shit in- own.

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Reply #142 - October 03, 2010, 08:53 PM

Quote from: IsLame on October 03, 2010, 07:05 PM
Disgusting, you spend your time here & promote FFI - change it at once or I shall mount you like a bison in the mating season, armed with a rod as stiff as steel.

Omg MAB is an undercover FFI supporter.
Respect lost!!

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Reply #143 - October 03, 2010, 09:02 PM

As much as I dislike FFI - I rather like MaB - at least he is happy to quaff a pint or two, kick his shoes off and and play naked wrestling with the guys and gals here
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Reply #144 - October 03, 2010, 09:30 PM

^ .. and he's not afraid to speak his mind about things he doesn't agree about them.

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Reply #145 - October 03, 2010, 09:55 PM

MAB is an undercover FFI .
boo hoo

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Reply #146 - October 04, 2010, 12:09 AM

FFI are playing bad cop and we are playing good cop.

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Reply #147 - October 04, 2010, 05:05 AM

Quote from: IsLame on October 03, 2010, 03:24 PM
Funny thing is that even in countries like the USA, its doubtful whether it would be wise for a presidential hopeful to openly claim to be an atheist.

True. Now imagine what the USA would be like if all those millions of wacko Jesus freaks were overnight replaced in their beds with Muhammadans.

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Reply #148 - October 04, 2010, 05:24 AM

Quote from: Mount A Bison on October 03, 2010, 04:31 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOL@Ishina

Talk about an investigative reporter. Try as I might there is no contending with a woman who is pathologically commited to her case. You've got him firmly nailed my sweet haven't you? Nailed as a hot young cheerleader being cheerfully deflowered. Nothing's like having your own words flung back at you with polemic force.

Well she hasn't really MaB. These are recent gentle retorts after months of unfounded accusations of racism, neo-Nazi affiliations and general Muslim-like abuse directed against me by the likes of Q-man (which individual has also taken to PMing me and seemingly challenging me to fights) . Indeed Ishna's inability to distinguish between CAUSE and EFFECT in such matters could itself be described as ISLAMESQUE. Calling someones behavior "Muslim-like" or "Islamesque" is not the same as saying someone who claims to be an ex-Muslim is actually a Muslim pretending to be one.

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Reply #149 - October 04, 2010, 05:30 AM

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From what I can observe the guy's chief fault is that he is too much like the Nuke-Iran-Crowd of the Robert Spencer variety,

You obviously need to observe my writings and those of Spencer a little more closely. Or, if I have missed Spencer's statements calling for Iran to be nuked , please point them out to me.

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